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Health insurance canceled. Reason-Did not provide proof of citizenship.

Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 3 months ago to The Gulch: General
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My sister in law attempted to use her prescription card today and was told it was not valid. She received the card less than 2 months ago so this seemed strange. My brother called the Insurance carrier and was informed the policy had been canceled because he failed to provide proof of citizenship when he purchased the policy. The person he spoke to said he probably failed to put his Social Security number on the form. No request was sent and he didn't get a letter informing him the policy was cancelled. He asked what he needed to do now and was told he needs to submit the following:

Copy of drivers license
Social Security number
Copy of birth certificate
Copy of most recent W2 forms

Obama became President with less information than this and ObamaCare is probably the reason behind this. What a mess.


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  • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 3 months ago
    Obamacare is a bend over and grab your ankles cluster of the first order....and getting worse.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago
      Unreal. I am guessing if he wasn't a citizen there wouldn't be a problem.
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      • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 3 months ago
        I think the citizenship proof is only a requirement if the plan is purchased through the exchanges. If you go direct to the insurance company, it should not be an issue.

        I refused to give up my SSN for my health insurance. I've had the same carrier, albeit with different plans, for decades. Given the artificial barriers they put in place on insurance at the states previously, you had no choices.

        Good thing considering Anthem/Blue Cross was hacked in my state
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        • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 3 months ago
          Tech, they were hacked in all states, Intel uses them and Cigna, and now Anthem is buying Cigna. They gave us 2 years of credit monitoring, and with all the hackers getting away with it (instead of being shot for theft), I will have about 32,000 credit monitoring plans. They got my SSN from my employer, no vote involved on my part.
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          • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 3 months ago
            Yeah, I got the letter from them too about the hack. Their monitoring added to what I was already using.

            On the merge... Their backup plan for single payer is apparently work the other way for sole provider. Merges on that scale have to be approved by sodom on potomac.
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        • Posted by roneida 9 years, 3 months ago
          technocracy Wait until you are old enough for Medicare if you are defensive about your SS #,, The Federal security crazies assign your Medicare I D # to you and it is .....YOUR Social Security number plus one letter at the end. About as secure and safe as "Pig Latin". How many people see your Medicare Card in a year if you have any intersection with health care, blood banks, prescriptions, x rays, MR I's, etc....Everyone involved has to see your card. It would be a good Monty Python or Bennie Hill skit if it weren't so stupid and dangerous. No wonder these idiots cause billions of dollars of fraud per no year. No other country has a health system as strong as Americas' because it survives such mis management and continues on. It's time for a Real Change...TOP down!!!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 3 months ago
    If they need proof of religion will I have to show my circumcision? When will they start using retinal scans? This stuff just frustrates the hell out of me. I got so angry yesterday at the TV, I almost bit the lip off my teacup.
    I could see it if it were a polling place, but insurance is something bought and paid for regardless of citizenship. Or is it? Is this one of the results of Obamacare?
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 3 months ago
    Obamacare is kind of a disaster all around. There would be pain on the part of some if its repealed, but it needs to be NOW
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    • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago
      If it is repealed and serious reforms are made then we should be much better off.
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      • Posted by Ibecame 9 years, 3 months ago
        Before Obamacare there was Insurance
        Before there was insurance there was a free market.
        In the free market I belonged to a Co-Op (voluntarily without penalties, taxes or restrictions). It cost me 1/43 of what I have to pay now (so that I do not have to sign over my entire estate to the government, but can leave it to those I choose to - my children). For Christmas they sent us all a check dividing up the money that was left over. There were no copays of any kind. The doctor got his check within a week, and I had $2million in coverage (probably about $20million in todays coverage).
        The more government has intervened, the worse health care has gotten. I like the Gulch plan the best. No government intervention.
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        • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 3 months ago
          I couldn't agree more.

          A lot of our current problems in this segment originated in the late 70s - early 80s when HMOs became all the rage.

          Expanded the administrative overhead tremendously, driving up cost.
          "Low Cost out of pocket" so people use it more, even when not sick enough to go to the doctor prior. Driving up cost.
          Shifted reimbursement of the physician to a per service model, meaning more tests, driving up cost.

          Now its nearly impossible to find a PPO plan, the insurers don't like those.
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          • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 3 months ago
            A lot was driven by companies wanting to cut HC costs being driven by doctors. When I joined in 1976, the Navy had "free" health care at all medical facilities. By the time I retired in 1996, we had "TriCare". You used to retire in a military community so you were close to the hospital, now you look for your next job.
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      • Posted by term2 9 years, 3 months ago
        but what they always wanted was expansion of medicare into a single payer system. Unfortunately, single payer systems will be bankrupt because there is no competition
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        • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 3 months ago
          We have seen how poorly single payer performs in other countries. Why anyone would want that here other than to buy influence/read votes, I do not understand.
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          • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 3 months ago
            I lived in England in the easrly 70's for a couple years. They had the "National Health Service" for the unwashed masses, and it took 3-6 months for an appointment. Every doctor and nurse got a free education, then a 10 years stint as a doctor. That meant the entire system was run by amatuers basically. They then would be done after 10, and open up a private practice on Harley Street in London, and make huge amounts from the 1% who could afford them. It is a self destructive system a common idea to everything "progressives " produce.
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 3 months ago
    the answer is if you need a dr just go to the emergency room, they will not throw you out.
    Technocrat is right on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 3 months ago
      ERs have to treat anyone that comes in by law, insurance or not. Everyone has figured that out, so if they are uninsured or have crappy insurance, people go straight to the ER and stiff the hospital.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 9 years, 3 months ago
    The only thing on the list that actually proves citizenship would be a birth certificate. None of the others require citizenship, just supposedly a legal right to be in the country.
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    • Posted by Lucky 9 years, 3 months ago
      In the US, SS numbers are given to non-citizens who have been granted permanent residency. Strictly speaking, a person with a US birth certificate can have other citizenship.
      I have just been reading about popular UK conservative politician Boris Johnson, the current Mayor of London. Some say he wants to be, among other things, president of the US, he was born in New York City.
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      • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 9 years, 3 months ago
        I hadn't heard about Boris, but you are correct. When I was doing investigations I frequently asked if that was the persons SSN, and the answer would be no. The SSA & irs both know that income from multiple sources and names is being reported on the same number. Not that hard to track down if they wanted to. They don't. I turned in (multiple times actually) someone blatantly committing SSI fraud, and last time I did the entire investigation for them, sent it via my congressman to the inspector general of ss, and directly to him also. They have no intention of stopping the fraud.
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