He's a gadfly. With his past record of having been a Democrat and giving money to the Clintons, I couldn't trust him any more than I trust Hillary. He's that "man on a white horse" we've been warned about. He'll say anything to gain attention and then reverse himself the next day. Sound like anyone else you know? I do like the fact that his politically incorrect approach is scaring the hell out of everyone.
He may be a gladfly but he is talking about what my neighbors and I want brought out in the open and disclosed by the media- illeal immigration is killing California and the Country. Most of the illiterate illegals are only coming to this country for the freebies and the liberals only want them here to guarantee a one-party systen once they figure out how to grant amnesty to the crooks. Political correctness is nothing more than liberal bulls*it to shut up the opposition.
BHO betrays our trust in representative, constitutional government with every breath he takes, in my humble opinion. . he is the precise opposite of the leader whom we need in that job. -- j .
If the only qualifications for president were to be black and historic, Obama is the perfect candidate. But unfortunately things like experience, negotiating ability, capability to pick talented advisors (not just historic untalented black people), and a true desire to stick up for the USA are needed too. None of which Obama has
I'm afraid that BHO is just half-black and histrionic. . his sincere attempt to Alinskyize the U.S. -- to make it a centrally-controlled politically- correct mistake -- is the absolute last thing which we need to culminate the past hundred years of "progressive" change here in the good ole united states. . we might as well have never revolted from King George . IMHO. -- j .
He has done more to hurt the USA. than any other president ever. We may never survive his destruction of our currency and our wealth. It's very frightening
my avarice is getting them out to people who might make more of a difference for good, having seen them. . they might read AS and become Quentin Daniels or at least the bum with the white shirt!!! -- j .
you are right. we dont all have to be dyed in the wool objectivists right off the boat as it were. it takes awhile to understand the philosophy, but in the meantime one can choose to act more and more rationally and thats ok with me
Trump reminds me of Perot's campaign. Both attracted a lot of interest for the same reasons. Both have had accomplishments outside of politics which gave them some credibility as they baldly state that the emperor has no clothes, refusing to pander to the evasive "diplomacy" of the Washington establishment and appealing to many common sense objections. But that isn't enough for serious debate, let alone enough to be president. Perot turned out to be a kook and quickly fell out of favor, and Trump isn't much different.
Trump seems to understand almost nothing about most of the politically imposed problems we are suffering under, or the proper political principles of what American government is supposed to be to solve and reverse them. He has yet to affirm the rights and freedom of the individual as the central foundation of the country, urging instead and ability to "make deals".
With an anti-philosophical, unprincipled "pragmatism" he dramatically shoots from the hip, often on topics he hasn't bothered to investigate or think about, sometimes striking a nerve and sometimes off the deep end, as when he recently completely misrepresented and attacked Pamela Geller when she was threatened with terrorist murder for sponsoring a cartoon contest deemed blasphemy by the Islamo fascists. He has inconsistently previously been for amnesty of illegal aliens and is infamous for using eminent domain for removing people from their homes for parking lots for his business. Could that kind of mentality defend property rights against statism?
That kind of mind is no solution to the problems of the country no matter how well he handles politically correct reporters in a campaign of self-assurance that delights those who don't look any deeper than their own amusement.
On the basis of a much narrower success in business he speaks as if he can buy off every problem through the shear drama and loudness of his narcissist personality in the name of "common sense" formed by a hodge podge of the obvious mixed with destructive conventionalism. He arrogantly tells us he "knows all the smart people", and loudly obsesses over making "deals" as the alleged solution to everything -- with no regard for 'deals' for what end purpose and at what cost, or what principles, if any, are held by his "smart people".
Trump's populist appeal as he bashes Washington politicians brings negelcted topics to the front that ought to be discussed and debated, but he doesn't know how to do it himself. He didn't even know how to defend his own position calling the bluff of "McCain the War Hero" and its use for moral intimidation. In the face of establishment rejection and misrepresentation of many of his statements he is only leaving the best of them unanswered as he puts an albatross of public embarrassment around the neck of those who can and who would like to discuss them but who don''t have the public access he does. "A bad argument is worse than none."
He has no more insight and understanding than the pompous blowhard Chris Christy. Both of them are demagogues. This intellectual vacuum only adds to the danger of both the leftist ideologues and the establishment conservatives, who offer nothing but a desire to manage the progressively advancing statism under the mentality of "me too but slower" as their moral response to the collectivist left. Trump is one variety of the man on the white horse in an intellectual vacuum that Ayn Rand warned against.
Actually, Perot was just as much the businessman as Trump, only he didn't have the history of giving millions of dollars to Democrats. I voted for Perot because I wanted a choice other than Bush or Clinton and because I wanted someone with some economic and business sense in the White House.
Trump is very different to me than Perot, but I am fairly confident that if Trump runs as a third party, Hillary will ascend to the Presidency. Trump speaks about the things the politicians don't want to, which makes him a refreshing change from the status quo. And he actually pleased a lot of Republican voters when he criticized John McCain because most Republicans (except the ones in Arizona) don't like McCain because he's a RINO.
All that being said, however, there are at least a half-dozen I would choose over Trump at this point.
The reality is we are going to get one of the pack as president next year. The 47% Romney talked about that just want goodies are still there. Rand is not with us to run an intellectually based campaign. Our country cannot stand another socialist president. It certainly doesn't need some religious zealot. Given that, is trump such a bad voice. We need an intellectual revolution, and that could take a generation at leadt
The question was about Donald Trump, not reforming the whole culture during the time span of a political campaign.
Trump versus a more explicit socialist is a false alternative in the primary. By the time of the final election we will be limited to selecting one of two candidates, which ones not now known. Voting for one or the other or neither at that time is a political choice in that limited context, not an endorsement or assessment of either candidate, and not relevant to what we think of any of them now as we look at the field of primary candidates and assess what they are. The question was about Donald Trump.
My comment was that of the field out there, is Trump such a bad choice? I dont think we could stand another socialist who will destroy our US dollar, and on foreign relations we have been really decimated by Obama and his crew. Personally, I dont think Trump has a snowball's chance in hell of being actually elected- he just doesnt offer the "takers" enough in this environment. Someone else will come up and steal the show by offering goodies to the 51%. If he actually gets to the ballot box, given the rest of the candidates that are out there now, I would vote for him.
There are several primary candidates who are better than Trump in terms of knowledge, understanding, consistency and with at least some emphasis on limiting government power as opposed to open-ended "deals". There isn't anything I would trust Trump not to sell out, with or without knowing what he is doing.
But we all know the rest of them lie. At least trump tells it like it is. No one else has the guts to speak up. Maybe Rand Paul or Ron Paul, but they dont seem to have a chance of winning. Our country cant stand another stint of deficit spending and multiple wars. I am very concerned that this is about IT for the USA.
Rand Paul definitely tells it like it is and has vast experience with the system. And then there's Ben Carson, tho' with much less gummint iknvolvement, but like Rand, intelligent, doctor's ethics, not corruptible, ready to walk the walk...
He isn't perfect. At least he doesn't outright lie in order to be politically correct. He would tell us if the emperor had no clothes. Would Hillary or Jeb bush? Maybe Bernie sanders would at least
While I find his messages refreshing, I have a hard time supporting someone who does not seem to have a consistent set of core values.
My perception is that Trump is an opportunist, one who does what is convenient at the moment. If you look at his record over the past 10 years or so, he is now FOR things he railed AGAINST in the past, and vice versa.
Thank you. I'm never sure with Mr. Trump if it is "evolution" or just "revolution", but I enjoy the stir he is causing. Even lib media gives him more exposure than they do Mrs. William Clinton. They hate him almost as much as they did Sarah, but he is a more formidable foe because of his finances.
Ditto. Trump is saying what conservatives want to hear, and everything that liberals believe makes conservatives insensitive, mean, haters. I believe he's a shill for the Crypt Keeper.
I'm in Arizona and attended the Trump "rally" in Phoenix. I thought twice about going because I was concerned about running into "crazies". Little did I know I would be considered one of them simply by attending. The room did have some Trump fans, the curious like me but what struck me the most were the number of working class and small business people. The press jumped all over the immigration issue but Trump has also brought up the outsourcing of jobs. My wife has had her job outsourced to India 3 times in the last 10 years. I am a small painting contractor. I understand both sides of the immigration coin. As a painter I could no longer make a living because the immigrants came in in such huge volumes that they swamped the labor pool. Wages were driven down so low it looked the 1930's depression in the paint store parking lots when the contractors showed up looking for labor. I am not exaggerating. As a business owner it is difficult to compete using American labor. But I still do. As far as amnesty is concerned I think these people are being sold a bill of goods. If they were to become citizens they would immediately expect to make a higher wage. It defeats the purpose of what the big corporations want which is cheap labor. So then the next step would be open borders to insure a free flow of cheap labor and the swamping of the American "culture". McCain has been a huge disappointment and is simply a shill for the big building contractors in this state as well as one of the largest military contractors in the U.S. While keeping these "people" happy keeps some jobs here, many more jobs will be given to people from Mexico and in India and China. I must applaud Trump for bringing these subjects out in the open whether he is a Democrat plant by the Clintons or a somewhat nutty Republican. He does not appear to fear being labeled and really doesn't have much to lose. Anybody else would have been shouted down as racist and shamed into silence. I am sick unto death of political correctness and look forward to some true debate for however a short period it may last.
Well said. immigration should in my humble opinion be only by legal means. But if you are in central America and your children are starving what would you do?
Empty suit. Big mouth. Looter. Clown. If there is to be any return to liberty, it won't be due to Trump. The entire political system and the culture that it rewards must be killed by the sovereign people.
Safety or liberty? Venezuela doesn't have the history of self reliance and liberty that America has (supposedly) . We, the people, are the last line of defense against tyranny. If we do not act now, it will defintely be a very long time before mankind sees liberty again.
In all honesty, I withdrew my voter registration a few years ago, because I got tired of voting against things, and it didn't make any difference anyway. My feeling is that I'll do the bare minimum to stay compliant with the law, but I view myself as my own political entity, and I'll go merrily on my way doing what's best for ME.
Trump is showing us the truth of the saying: "When Peter talks about Paul, you learn more about Peter than you do about Paul." The reactions of the {candidates, pundits, talking heads, etc.} to Trump saying {The emperor has no clothes} regarding subjects the elites down want to address or acknowledge is, in my opinion, the best public service he has ever performed to date. For that I thank him for throwing his hat into the ring.
He is just lovely. He is a welcome break from the 20-plus-years of warring conservatives and liberals. They seem to despise him equally. :)
And whether or not they want to admit it...Trump is providing early cover for Republican candidates. The last thing the Republicans need is a candidate who win the primary, but overtime, during the primary-- has lost face nationally.
Trump is a well-needed bull in the RINO china shop. But I also have a favorable eye on a very few other GOP candidates, and one of them is a woman. For me it is too early to decide who is the leader of the pack.
I disagree with Trump on multiple issues, but I like his willingness to take on the establishment GOP and the establishment media, especially with regard to their "sacred cows" (pun intended). His bombastic nature is probably not dignified enough for a president, but I like it.
We're on a similar wavelength, yet again! :-) He is building a huge fan base because of what he is AGAINST and how well he is attacking and offending people. Offending the status quo too, which I can't help but enjoy. But this only goes so far and we ultimately need a positive and constructive president. Respectful would be great too. I'm enjoying the Trump political reality show but the outcome is likely to be a "total disaster" for everyone except him and his impenetrable ego.
I like many things about many of the candidates, but each of them have his/her own weaknesses. I probably agree with Rand Paul more than any of the others, but I would rather have someone with gubernatorial or CEO experience.
No, of course, President Zero is undignified. There are enough candidates for president that you would think we could find one who is suitable, but in the last couple of elections, the Republican primaries narrowed down the selections down to the point where I couldn't vote for the one nominated for president.
As I've mentioned on other threads, I can never be accused of being the Donald's biggest cheer leader. That being said, I find him remarkable refreshing. He calls his shots, like it or not, and that's the best we can ask for in a political leader.
of course I would prefer him to BHO. . or to HRC. . but might we not do better with Scott Walker? . maybe a Walker / Jindal or a Walker / Fiorina ticket to win the general? -- j .
He has opened up many topics that no other politicians are too afraid or to ingrained in the system to mention. For this he is a great man. He has changed the landscape and now the usual blather we get will be harder to sell, and thay can't be bad!
I think that the best that he's done is to expose how the conservative message is resonating with the average Republican and how if the Republicans want to be invigorated, they need to come back to conservative principles. We need to go back to our roots if we want to bring this country back to the integrity and strength it once had.
Trump is a typical real estate hustler. Plays fast and loose with valuations and representations. With that said, while he's currently hitting on conservative hot buttons, many of his other positions are decidedly democratic (Universal health care). The one good thing is that he is bringing up issues that the RINOs in charge of the Republican party would rather be kept quiet and low key (immigration) and forcing candidates to explicitly stake out their RINO or conservative positions. So, if the establishment wants to run another non-conservative like McCain or Romney (ie. Jeb) I fully expect Trump to play spoiler as a third party option and we'll end up with Hillary.
Yes, but I'm not sure whether he's serious about being President or if he is trying to weaken establishment Republicans or if he really wants to be a Ross Perot spoiler. One thing I've not been able to figure out is why or how the RINO Republicans have as much support as they do.
I really don't think it matters who becomes President. Just look at the Senate...since the Repubblicans have taken control, nothing has changed. In point of fact, the last few major votes have gone the same way as they would have if the Democrats still had control. If nothing else, it might be amusing to watch Hillary trying to blame the previous eight years on George Bush.
I like Trump's straight talk, saying what should be said. However, I do not trust him. He once was quite a supporter of Hillary in what he said at the time. How can you trust someone who was wiling to be bailed out of bankruptcy because the government said he was too big to fail? He made a flippant rmark that he might choose Oprah as a running mate early on, another big Obama supporter. However, Hillary is a definite disaster and Bush is more one world march to the end of the US as we know it.
I'm not sure why we think it's "straight talk". Somebody saying the right things merely to cause a sensation and without actually believing them or representing his core principles is anything but "straight talk". He's a showman. PT Barnum would be proud.
Ultimately Mr. Trump can't be trusted as a contender (I think). But what he is doing is showing the mealy mouthed cowardly republicans the right way, and the right platform to do it.
I.E. Donald Trump has latched on to Illegal Immigration being the single biggest problem this country faces (and it is), while the rest of the field is caught in a circle jerk trying to be the first one to grant them amnesty thinking that this will "un-liberal" the liberal illegal aliens and make them vote for us. America wants the illegal immigrants kicked out. They don't want amnesty. They don't want reform. They want every single piece of third world scum kicked out, and Trump is showing the Republican party that this is what the people want.
Secondly, Trump is showing the Republican party that the people are tired of pussy Republicans abasing themselves before the Democrats, thinking that politeness will somehow show the lying Democrat con artists as lying con artists. Americans are responding with enthusiasm when someone finally calls a Spade a Spade... Kicks out liberal News-papers from his event who think that they can lie about him, and then demand to participate as "journalists..." Points out a "journalist's" lies to his face... Americans are loving it that someone is finally standing up and saying "A is A". Now whether he believes it or not is a separate issue. But the fact is that Trump has been walking the walk (in this race), talking the talk, and is so far out ahead of everyone that the Republicans should be kissing his ass, and, more importantly, sitting down to take notes.
The Donald certainly seems to have tapped in a frustrated portion of the voters who are generally pretty quiet. Remember the silent majority? I personally would like to see him shake up the entire establishment.
my own un-educated guess is that Trump doesn't want that thankless job any more than he wants to visit with Obama. He will hopefully be an irritant in the comfort zone of the mealy mouth Republicans who have gotten way to close to religion to be of much use. Any candidate for elected office in America should be obligated to take the oath of office on the Constitution not some biased, superstitious writing by unknowns...You can see an original signed copy of the Declaration and Constitution.
donnie seems to crave attention and has very few specifics about anything ... he is a great side show but unless we want another wanna-be dictator, no thanks
Thanks Galt's Gulch for all the fantastic comments! I personally think that if Donald Trump were elected President (magically). I think he would be the first cartoon character ever elected President! I can't take the guy seriously! But a lot of conservatives seem to love the guy! WTF! I still don't think he's running and I don't think he will be in the race by the time the first republican primary is underway.
He's a pragmatist that would betray your natural rights in a heartbeat if it meant making a "good deal".
with every breath he takes, in my humble opinion. . he is the precise
opposite of the leader whom we need in that job. -- j
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to Alinskyize the U.S. -- to make it a centrally-controlled politically-
correct mistake -- is the absolute last thing which we need
to culminate the past hundred years of "progressive" change
here in the good ole united states. . we might as well have never
revolted from King George . IMHO. -- j
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haven't been able to prevent the sun rising! . have a great Monday!!! -- j
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of a difference for good, having seen them. . they might read AS
and become Quentin Daniels or at least the bum with the white shirt!!! -- j
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and the economy, too! -- j
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Trump seems to understand almost nothing about most of the politically imposed problems we are suffering under, or the proper political principles of what American government is supposed to be to solve and reverse them. He has yet to affirm the rights and freedom of the individual as the central foundation of the country, urging instead and ability to "make deals".
With an anti-philosophical, unprincipled "pragmatism" he dramatically shoots from the hip, often on topics he hasn't bothered to investigate or think about, sometimes striking a nerve and sometimes off the deep end, as when he recently completely misrepresented and attacked Pamela Geller when she was threatened with terrorist murder for sponsoring a cartoon contest deemed blasphemy by the Islamo fascists. He has inconsistently previously been for amnesty of illegal aliens and is infamous for using eminent domain for removing people from their homes for parking lots for his business. Could that kind of mentality defend property rights against statism?
That kind of mind is no solution to the problems of the country no matter how well he handles politically correct reporters in a campaign of self-assurance that delights those who don't look any deeper than their own amusement.
On the basis of a much narrower success in business he speaks as if he can buy off every problem through the shear drama and loudness of his narcissist personality in the name of "common sense" formed by a hodge podge of the obvious mixed with destructive conventionalism. He arrogantly tells us he "knows all the smart people", and loudly obsesses over making "deals" as the alleged solution to everything -- with no regard for 'deals' for what end purpose and at what cost, or what principles, if any, are held by his "smart people".
Trump's populist appeal as he bashes Washington politicians brings negelcted topics to the front that ought to be discussed and debated, but he doesn't know how to do it himself. He didn't even know how to defend his own position calling the bluff of "McCain the War Hero" and its use for moral intimidation. In the face of establishment rejection and misrepresentation of many of his statements he is only leaving the best of them unanswered as he puts an albatross of public embarrassment around the neck of those who can and who would like to discuss them but who don''t have the public access he does. "A bad argument is worse than none."
He has no more insight and understanding than the pompous blowhard Chris Christy. Both of them are demagogues. This intellectual vacuum only adds to the danger of both the leftist ideologues and the establishment conservatives, who offer nothing but a desire to manage the progressively advancing statism under the mentality of "me too but slower" as their moral response to the collectivist left. Trump is one variety of the man on the white horse in an intellectual vacuum that Ayn Rand warned against.
Trump is very different to me than Perot, but I am fairly confident that if Trump runs as a third party, Hillary will ascend to the Presidency. Trump speaks about the things the politicians don't want to, which makes him a refreshing change from the status quo. And he actually pleased a lot of Republican voters when he criticized John McCain because most Republicans (except the ones in Arizona) don't like McCain because he's a RINO.
All that being said, however, there are at least a half-dozen I would choose over Trump at this point.
Trump versus a more explicit socialist is a false alternative in the primary. By the time of the final election we will be limited to selecting one of two candidates, which ones not now known. Voting for one or the other or neither at that time is a political choice in that limited context, not an endorsement or assessment of either candidate, and not relevant to what we think of any of them now as we look at the field of primary candidates and assess what they are. The question was about Donald Trump.
...and "they" say philosophy is not tied to reality.
My perception is that Trump is an opportunist, one who does what is convenient at the moment. If you look at his record over the past 10 years or so, he is now FOR things he railed AGAINST in the past, and vice versa.
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to point out a thing or two, over Sarah. . bastards. -- j
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They just seem like caricatures of what the mainstream considers a "normal" candidate should be.
I believe he's a shill for the Crypt Keeper.
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If there is to be any return to liberty, it won't be due to Trump.
The entire political system and the culture that it rewards must be killed by the sovereign people.
Venezuela doesn't have the history of self reliance and liberty that America has (supposedly) .
We, the people, are the last line of defense against tyranny.
If we do not act now, it will defintely be a very long time before mankind sees liberty again.
My country 'tis of me.
"When Peter talks about Paul, you learn more about Peter than you do about Paul."
The reactions of the {candidates, pundits, talking heads, etc.} to Trump saying {The emperor has no clothes} regarding subjects the elites down want to address or acknowledge is, in my opinion, the best public service he has ever performed to date. For that I thank him for throwing his hat into the ring.
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And whether or not they want to admit it...Trump is providing early cover for Republican candidates. The last thing the Republicans need is a candidate who win the primary, but overtime, during the primary-- has lost face nationally.
But I also have a favorable eye on a very few other GOP candidates, and one of them is a woman.
For me it is too early to decide who is the leader of the pack.
I have no doubt he knows how to build staff and get things done. Will he do it?
He is building a huge fan base because of what he is AGAINST and how well he is attacking and offending people. Offending the status quo too, which I can't help but enjoy. But this only goes so far and we ultimately need a positive and constructive president. Respectful would be great too. I'm enjoying the Trump political reality show but the outcome is likely to be a "total disaster" for everyone except him and his impenetrable ego.
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he would probably be a joke as a national leader. . IMHO. -- j
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In the words of Mark Twain, "If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it".
do better with Scott Walker? . maybe a Walker / Jindal or a
Walker / Fiorina ticket to win the general? -- j
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The one good thing is that he is bringing up issues that the RINOs in charge of the Republican party would rather be kept quiet and low key (immigration) and forcing candidates to explicitly stake out their RINO or conservative positions.
So, if the establishment wants to run another non-conservative like McCain or Romney (ie. Jeb) I fully expect Trump to play spoiler as a third party option and we'll end up with Hillary.
One thing I've not been able to figure out is why or how the RINO Republicans have as much support as they do.
he is a loose cannon, in my view. -- j
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I.E. Donald Trump has latched on to Illegal Immigration being the single biggest problem this country faces (and it is), while the rest of the field is caught in a circle jerk trying to be the first one to grant them amnesty thinking that this will "un-liberal" the liberal illegal aliens and make them vote for us. America wants the illegal immigrants kicked out. They don't want amnesty. They don't want reform. They want every single piece of third world scum kicked out, and Trump is showing the Republican party that this is what the people want.
Secondly, Trump is showing the Republican party that the people are tired of pussy Republicans abasing themselves before the Democrats, thinking that politeness will somehow show the lying Democrat con artists as lying con artists. Americans are responding with enthusiasm when someone finally calls a Spade a Spade... Kicks out liberal News-papers from his event who think that they can lie about him, and then demand to participate as "journalists..." Points out a "journalist's" lies to his face... Americans are loving it that someone is finally standing up and saying "A is A". Now whether he believes it or not is a separate issue. But the fact is that Trump has been walking the walk (in this race), talking the talk, and is so far out ahead of everyone that the Republicans should be kissing his ass, and, more importantly, sitting down to take notes.
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