Imposter Syndrome

Posted by Vinay 10 years, 9 months ago to Culture
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Imposter Syndrome is back in the news because of PSH.
Love that Bertrand Russell comment here: http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/...
Phillip Seymour Hoffman, it seems, had a classic case of IS. Classic Imposter Syndrome. Mind you, we also know so many people who have Greatness Syndrome, typically politicians, who think they are great when they in fact are frauds.
SOURCE URL: http://www.news.com.au/finance/highachievers-suffering-from-imposter-syndrome/story-e6frfm1i-1226779707766


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  • Posted by Eyecu2 10 years, 9 months ago
    Feelings of inadequacy are completely normal. Everyone has self doubt from time to time but the person to be afraid of is the megalomaniac who never has any self doubt. Those are the ones who have had the largest and worst impacts throughout history. I am certain that you can think of several names to fill in here, so I will stop and allow others to list them.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 9 months ago
    I believe it is natural for all to have some self doubt. Decades of interaction with others has reduced my own doubts. I have made it a primary value to be honest with myself and others. Having triumphed over most of my competitors has shown me who the real impostors were. Oh, I have some self doubt, but I no longer have time to entertain much of it. I have doubts about my doubts... :) Many of the examples in the article are people who many would say have been overly rewarded for their true contributions to society or their actual effort and skills required for same. That is perhaps at the root of their own feelings. In some cases this is a collectivist attitude. I am unworthy... well if you look at it one can see how they could feel that way. Do we reward those who develop a cure for a disease as handsomely as we do an actor for pretending? (I'm not a doctor , but I play one on TV). I have no problem with rewarding actors with what the market decides. I have a problem with producers having their just rewards diminished... the Dagny Taggarts, Hank Reardens and John Galts... There are true impostors, many are in government, may or may not know it, and are overly rewarded.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 9 months ago
    Do you know anyone who has Imposter Syndrome? I know one prominent person with IS---Senator Olivia Allen, and I know her well (t-i-c).
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  • Posted by illucio 10 years, 9 months ago
    I used to do this, it´s called lying. In particular, lying to one´s self. I did it mostly out of shame. Now I´m proud to admit when I´m at a loss or don´t know something, no matter what that may cost. I live life stress free because not only do I not lie to people, but mainly I don´t lie to myself. That´s the ticket here. Socrates´ example is key, for the more we learn the less we know. And this is real, so if someone is acting out the part of a genious or great cultivated person, be sure to know you´re face to face with a fraud.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 9 months ago
    Significant amount of research traces IS back to a tiger parent, namely huge pressure and excessive expectations of THE OTHERS, merely coming second in class once is a "calamity", AS EXPERIENCED BY THE CHILD of 8,9, or 10. Hence Olivia has a tiger mom in the book. It could be the reason that many of these children, who already have high analytical or creative IQs, achieve a lot, but the measurement against the world as against your won standards, takes a toll on self-esteem. People with IS have a gaping hole in their self-esteem, they are never good enough, no matter what they accomplish. Two brilliant students, boys, both of whom I knew personally (but not well), committed suicide at around 18 years of age, one in first year of medical school simply because a girl thwarted his efforts to get her to love him, and the other simply because once, just once, he was not first in class at a very high-achieving university. And then he was dead.
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  • Posted by DaveM49 10 years, 9 months ago
    Hoffman starred in a quirky movie, "Synedoche, New York". The storyline centers on a theatrical director who receives a "genius grant" and uses it to build a full-size replica of New York, populated with actors, etc., all of which are supposed to be scripted and under his control. The whole thing unravels when the "characters" insist on having minds of their own.

    Although Hoffman did not write or direct the film, it seems a perfect metaphor for his life. We might also look at his best-known role, Truman Capote, who was a lifelong impostor of sorts.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 9 months ago
    If you listen to Yaron Brook's lecture, and understand it as an Objectivist, I don't see how you could have the "Imposter Syndrome." You are grounded in a philosophy that extolls reason. You are....well, if you understand Objectivism at all, I don't need to remind you. All those who express their feelings of inadequacy do so, for the most part, because in spite of their talent and ability the only grounding in reality that they have is either ghosts or false premises.
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    • Posted by khalling 10 years, 9 months ago
      Vinay has written a political thriller that will keep you on the edge of your seat, herb. The protagonist has IS. The hero in the story does not say he is Objectivist, but...;)
      I think you'll enjoy it very much. Vinay is also a speaker at the Atlas Summit this June in New Hampshire.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 9 months ago
        I'd like to be able to say that I don't have IS any more than one of A.R.'s heroes. Everyone has self-doubts now and then. But, as I applied the philosophy to my own life, and allowed myself to be completely honest with myself, I found the need for IS which is a form of self deprecation to be unnecessary.. I am who and what I am. I'm
        proud of my achievements, regret my mistakes and because I'm honest with myself I don't feel as if I'm fooling anyone. Rather than thinking of myself as a phony, I prefer to think of myself as a hero. Some people are afraid to say that about themselves because our society frowns on people who "toot their own horn." But if you can't love yourself, why should you expect anyone else to love you? You want to read about heroic figures with IS, that's OK with me. I prefer the ones who overcome their self-doubts and act heroically not because of them, but in spite of them.
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    • Posted by iamA2u 10 years, 9 months ago
      I disagree that an objective has no self doubt. I have 100 million dollar signature authority I exercise regularly, I wouldn't trust anyone else in the company with my job. But sometimes I wonder when the really smart person is going to come along.

      I agree with eyecu2.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 9 months ago
    I found it interesting that so many of the people cited in the article were West coast liberals. I have long thought the desire of so may "stars" to run everyone's life with other people's money, was based on their own sense of not deserving the huge salaries they receive for perceived limited talent..
    Actually, doubt can some relation to intelligence in some cases. The more you learn, the more you see there is so much more to learn. It does not bring on self doubt, actually, just healthy skepticism of anyone knowing all the answers, including you.
    I have known several CEOs who could not listen to alternate opinions, almost as if they feared they might have thrown all in for the wrong stand.Not engaging in discussion closes all possibility of being wrong. Our Prez will not allow discussion, only talking at people.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 9 months ago
    PSH got well-deserved acclaim for Doubt. In that film, the priest delivers a sermon (ironically played by PSH) at the beginning, titled "We all have doubts," and that then is the theme of the movie. But Im Syn is very different from having the occasional self-doubt.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 9 months ago
    I'd prefer an individual with IS over one with AS (arrogance syndrome) where they believe they are the be all and end all, regardless of capability or talent.
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