The Critics of Atlas Shrugged II

Posted by WDonway 11 years, 9 months ago to Movies
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I just joined Galt's Gulch Online. Because the site is concerned with the Atlas Shrugged movie, I wanted to call attention to a review I did of "Atlas Shrugged II" and published on The Atlas Society Web site. Being new, I'm not sure if posting this is "spam," but I am sure I will be told. On the same site is the review I wrote when the first footage from Atlas Shrugged I was aired in New York City. And that seems strangely long ago.
SOURCE URL: http://www.atlassociety.org/atlas-shrugged/critics-atlas-shrugged-part-2-strike


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  • Posted by Lucky 11 years, 9 months ago
    WD: I enjoyed your review of Part 2.

    As you say there are many reviews- typically not real reviews but retreats into group-think.
    Part 2 was to me both thrilling and a let-down, much as Walter Donway in his comment in your review says. Just an idea but -maybe there is too much action -crashes, fires, explosions, plane chases- without explaining what is happening and why. Showing long speeches is not the answer. Instead of emulating an action computer game, producers should watch a few of the great film classics eg 'Battleship Potemkin' -Russia and "The Island' -Japan.
    It could be that liking the book so much I would find any film inadequate but I was disappointed at the downgrading of Eddie Williers and of Dagny - like the petulance in the boardroom.
    Anyway - I will be spending more time on atlassociety.org.

    Thanks and welcome.
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    • Posted by 11 years, 9 months ago
      Part 2 certainly upped the ante on action and thrills, perhaps there was a larger budget than for Part 1. They did not enhance the movie for me, not particularly; I didn't mind them, but I saw them as an attempt to build audience and I thought probably that was a losing proposition: that wasn't our audience. The challenge in the Atlas Shrugged movie, the only essential one, is to create heroes who are admired for the right things: that is, heroes of production who refused to be altruistic.
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      • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 11 years, 9 months ago
        IMHO, if you made Angelina Jole Dagny, Brad Pitt Galt, Tom Hanks as Rearden and Tom Cruise as Francisco, focused on Project X and the torture of Galt you might get a bigger audience, but to what end? None of those guys would be convincing as those characters and Project X is just to show to what lengths some will go to rule others. There would be no heroes to admire and like Leo in We The Living the producers would have been broken. For myself, I the producers are heroes just like Howard Roark, John Galt, Dagny Tagart, Hank Rearden and Kira Argounova. They are holding to their vision on their own terms.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 11 years, 9 months ago
    Thank you for your review. You were kind to the reviewers you mentioned and their inability to see past their own idiologies. I see most critics as moochers who produce nothing. They are the Scudders and Eubanks of the world who make their living by trying to convince others of the intellectual superiority of their opinions. I guess that's why I don't care what a critic says and use my own judgement.
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    • Posted by 11 years, 9 months ago
      I rarely read movie reviews. I do read a few book reviews, so I can scan what is being published without having to read the books. There are some brilliant and delightful reviewers, like W.H. Auden in "The Dyer's Hand." When it came to the Atlas movies, of course, I was responding to the reviewers to try to do my very small part to offset their influence on audiences. But, of course, you have reviews in NYT, LA Times, and Philly Inquirer--and the reply on the TAS Web site. John Aglialoro, the producer of the Atlas movies, with whom I was a trustee for many year on the TAS board, urged me to respond to the critics of Atlas Part 2 because he felt the critics had helped to limit audiences of Part 1. Again, the reply was appropriate and necessary--but the very, very limited reach of my reply did next to nothing to offset the dismal and shameful reviews in the national press. Thanks so, so much for commenting.
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      • Posted by darren 11 years, 9 months ago
        >>> he felt the critics had helped to limit audiences of Part 1.

        It is well known in the film trade that the #1 determinant of box-office success is word-of-mouth advertising, not reviews by professional critics.

        It's scarcely objective for Objectivists to assert that professional critics had little influence on the ultimate commercial success of the novel, but lots of influence on the lack of commercial success of the movies. The novel succeeded because word-of-mouth advertising by readers was positive; the movies failed because word-of-mouth advertising by ticket-buyers was negative.
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 11 years, 9 months ago
    I thought the critics were full of crap in their reviews of ASI and haven't changed my opinion. It is a beautifully photographed film with an excellent cast. So what if one scene wasn't filmed where it was supposed to be? Half the films supposedly set in the US are actually filmed in Canada. Virtually all the criticisms of both AS films are politically-motivated. With this said, I hope AS III will return to the original cast to the greatest extent possible. The second cast was okay, but the first was excellent.
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    • Posted by 11 years, 9 months ago
      I agree with you about Part 1. And I did several long replies to the critics of that part, but the Atlas Society did not publish them. They were simply on Facebook, I think. David Kelley did refer to them in his article on the critics of Part 1. I don't think the cast can be reassembled; the agent of the actress who played Dagny kept warning her not to get closely associated with the film or with Objectivist groups. She attended only promotions that she had agreed by contract to attend. That is how I understood it, anyway.
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      • Posted by darren 11 years, 9 months ago
        >>> the agent of the actress who played Dagny kept warning her not to get closely associated with the film or with Objectivist groups.

        Perhaps the agent sensed the film would be a dog and had the best interests of his or her client, Taylor Schilling, in mind. Sounds like a good, professional agent to me.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 9 months ago
    This was an excellent review, and I think a link to it was posted on this site originally, so it's not Spam and interesting to re-read. I have now read two of your novels, which were fascinating reads. I read both within a week. Strong heroines and heroes.
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    • Posted by 11 years, 9 months ago
      Well, you know THAT makes me proud, don't you? One reason, I suppose, to re-post the Atlas review is that Atlas Shrugged Part 3 now has been "green lighted." That delights me because I would have been disappointed if the meager audiences of Atlas 2 discouraged John Aglialoro to the point of giving up. Let me tell you: John gives up no more than Hank Rearden gave up trying to invent Rearden Metal--and for the same reasons. But, to return to my thought: the critics had a huge influence in limiting the audience for Atlas 1 and still more limiting it for Atlas 2. Why? Without a known producer, or director, or actors...this movie relied on reviews--or word of mouth--for its audience. Let us be aware, as Part 3 comes out, the critics will be hostile--frantically so--and ONLY word of mouth--that is us, you and me--will give this final part of the movie a chance to find the audience it deserves. If Part 3, against all odds, is a hit, then the whole sequence will roar to life and do the job we all hoped, for so long, that it would do: spur a huge resurgence in interest in the ideas, novels, non-fiction works of Ayn Rand.
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      • Posted by darren 11 years, 9 months ago
        >>> John gives up no more than Hank Rearden gave up trying to invent Rearden Metal...

        Except that Rearden didn't bang his head against a wall by intentionally repeating the same mistakes he made previously – a strategy quite different from Aglialoro's.

        >>>and for the same reasons

        Rearden never gave up his metallurgical research because he knew that IF he could succeed in giving his Metal the characteristics he wanted, it would be useful to lots of people and thus earn him a fat profit. Aglialoro, Kelley, et al., appear to be completely disconnected from what the public finds useful (i.e., entertaining, compelling, etc.) in a movie. Their goal is not to make a great film, but to transcribe the novel in a way that is "consistent" with Objectivism. And to that end, Kelley's function is to act as an ideological compliance officer. The entire production team is so concerned that the story not deviate one iota from Kelley's interpretation of the novel and the philosophy of Objectivism, and they were so concerned to rush Part I out for Tax Day and Part II out for the election, that there's just no time (and perhaps no real interest) in the "little details" that make a movie successful with the public: e.g., compelling screenwriting, sparkling dialogue, appropriate casting, and imaginative directing.

        And instead of being intellectually honest by saying, "Gee, I wonder if the failure of the two films was our fault", the producers blame everything and everyone except themselves: the budget wasn't big enough; the stars weren't famous enough; the critics weren't rational enough; the public wasn't selfish enough.

        I believe this is called **denial.**
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