So a "technical glitch" shuts down United Airlines and the NYSE on the same day. I'm trying to think what kind of conspiracy theories will start to surface.
richrobinson---so many people I know feel the same way, yet everyone seems to be at a loss as to what to do. Presidential candidates??? It doesn't seem to be a question of who is the best man (or woman) for the job, only a question of who will do the least harm!
I talked to a friend this morning about this. She feels she isn't doing enough. She is the most politically active person I know--sends e-mails, calls reps...Not sure what more we can do. Nothing seems to change.
Has anyone here seen and read the latest book by Charles Murray? I skimmed it at the bookstore. Looks exciting: http://www.amazon.com/By-People-Rebui... My point is, relying on elections and politicians is a fool's game at this point. We need individual action and self-organized action.
Wow! Is that an understatement or what? Feeling terribly unrepresented and ignored for the longest time. And, it just seems to be getting worse. Maybe its just me, I may be getting oldtimers or something.
I disagree -- politicians win popularity contests. They are not the source of the problem, the root cause. The source is the ideas in our culture. So learn and educate our fellow citizens for your life.
Best source is Ayn Rand's non-fiction and fiction. Also read the flow of work from ARI (AynRand.org) sponsored scholars.
I just heard a talk today by John A. Allison on his new book, "The Leadership Crisis and the Free Market Cure". It's stunningly accessible and grounded in extensive experience and success.
They win by saying what the sheeple want to hear. Once in office most act in their own best interests. I also think the ideas are being forced into the culture by the New World Order cooks at the UN.
A melt down in China would be huge. I agree that the reaction in China has been strange. It seems like a normal correction but they are treating as a full blown financial crisis.
It's a bit more than a normal correction, Rich. But I agree that the reaction seems to be a Chinese fire drill. (Sorry. I couldn't resist.). I think it's exacerbated by the powers-that-be are being presented with evidence that a planned economy won't work along with free capital markets and they can't get their heads around it. I only hope that the powers-that-be here in the States are taking notes. After all, we're headed down the road to a planned economy ourselves.
I seem to have heard in passing that the value of the Chinese market dropped by a third. If true, that's not a correction, that's a crash. Of course a "no big deal" attitude would be the best to portray so as to not cause a further sell-off.
It is but they had such a huge upside run this could have been explained as normal. The one one thing our market seems to hate is uncertainty and with this reaction they are creating a lot of that.
The Emperor has No clothes theory has garnered some support.
> Brigadier Preston-Jago of the Royal Army Maintenance Corps > was undergoing a court-martial for an incident where he was > found to be chasing a young lady through the hallways of the > Grafton Hotel, Catterick, Yorkshire, England, in which they > were both residing. > Neither of them were wearing any clothing whatsoever. > The main charge was that of "being out of uniform." > > The Brigadier's lawyer, a clever cove, argued that the > officer was not "out of uniform", as the regulations read, > 'An Army officer must be at all times be appropriately > attired for the activity in which he is engaged.' > > Brigadier Preston-Jago was acquitted. >
Something B-Rock and Bye 'den should keep in mind.
I sure dont believe what we are being told. If I had to guess, I would suspect some hackers or hacker government penetrated into these systems and our government wants to hide that.
In the novel, a group of Japanese businessmen manipulate their government into starting a war with the US for patriotic reasons. It starts with a computer attack that stops the New York Stock Exchange from recording any trades, beginning at noon on a Friday just after a bill that will hurt trade is signed into law. The bad guys try to enrich themselves on the resulting fall in the dollar against the yen.
The good guys not only figure this out but turn the tables, in a very clever way that I believe would actually work.
Let's get some facts straight: 1. Two instances have no statistical significance. 2. A "technical glitch" says nothing about cause including malicious attack. 3. If a source gets caught lying they lose all credibility with the benefits that brings.
We will see what is learned and published in the technical and security press.
One person interviewed said it was "configuration" issues. Sounds like Microsoft to me, or maybe Oracle. Neither run all that smoothly when updating. I actually had a brief issue this morning, had to adjust settings from some update. Everyday, I get the message to update to Win 10 FREE - right, I have heard about that one.
Absolutely. Not sure how many choices we have left to fight back. Not many differences in the Presidential candidates and our current disaster has a lot of time left.
The mainstream media and the Zero administration have said that there is no connection between the United Airlines and the NYSE technical glitches on the same day. What would have been the odds of two completely separate "technical glitches" on the same day before today? I don't buy it.
This administration has no credibility. I'm guessing they think it will cause panic and fear if they tell the truth. So few people are paying attention I doubt it would matter.
Only three things could effect two completely different systems at the same time; 1) a CME from the sun, (we didn't experience one that day in that area...the one in NZ and South Africa was a CME related event) 2) a cyber attack, which is most likely. and 3) the market was going poorly so they shut it down and used United Airlines as a cover; (here is your conspiracy theory for ya)
Can I please get a clarification from you, richrobinson? Your title today I thought referred to the shutdown of the NYSE today (July 8, 2015). The official explanation of technical glitches is definitely suspicious given the Chinese crash in progress. Did something happen today with United Airlines too? Or, why are other comments going back to 9/11? I could give you many more anomalies about that but it seems a departure in the thread. Thanks for some elaboration.
Hi Brett. A technical glitch caused United to ground all flights yesterday morning. Feel free to wander on my threads. I like to just roll with it. :-)
Ha, thanks. Since I wrote my first comment I did find news articles about United. I have a little insight into cyber security from my profession, and the attacks are happening relentlessly every day. We hear next to nothing about them. Many reasons for companies and governments to hide or misrepresent the actual events too. So assuming it was a cyber attack is a most likely common cause IMO.
You probably saw reports that Anonymous had an ominous tweet about NYSE the night before. China, North Korea, and Russia have motive and ability. So do factions within our own government for that matter. We have a had a lot of false flags in our history. That's my short list of suspects.
My point is, relying on elections and politicians is a fool's game at this point. We need individual action and self-organized action.
Maybe its just me, I may be getting oldtimers or something.
Best source is Ayn Rand's non-fiction and fiction. Also read the flow of work from ARI (AynRand.org) sponsored scholars.
I just heard a talk today by John A. Allison on his new book, "The Leadership Crisis and the Free Market Cure". It's stunningly accessible and grounded in extensive experience and success.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeex...
> Brigadier Preston-Jago of the Royal Army Maintenance Corps
> was undergoing a court-martial for an incident where he was
> found to be chasing a young lady through the hallways of the
> Grafton Hotel, Catterick, Yorkshire, England, in which they
> were both residing.
> Neither of them were wearing any clothing whatsoever.
> The main charge was that of "being out of uniform."
>
> The Brigadier's lawyer, a clever cove, argued that the
> officer was not "out of uniform", as the regulations read,
> 'An Army officer must be at all times be appropriately
> attired for the activity in which he is engaged.'
>
> Brigadier Preston-Jago was acquitted.
>
Something B-Rock and Bye 'den should keep in mind.
In the novel, a group of Japanese businessmen manipulate their government into starting a war with the US for patriotic reasons. It starts with a computer attack that stops the New York Stock Exchange from recording any trades, beginning at noon on a Friday just after a bill that will hurt trade is signed into law. The bad guys try to enrich themselves on the resulting fall in the dollar against the yen.
The good guys not only figure this out but turn the tables, in a very clever way that I believe would actually work.
1. Two instances have no statistical significance.
2. A "technical glitch" says nothing about cause including malicious attack.
3. If a source gets caught lying they lose all credibility with the benefits that brings.
We will see what is learned and published in the technical and security press.
.
Did something happen today with United Airlines too? Or, why are other comments going back to 9/11? I could give you many more anomalies about that but it seems a departure in the thread. Thanks for some elaboration.
I have a little insight into cyber security from my profession, and the attacks are happening relentlessly every day. We hear next to nothing about them. Many reasons for companies and governments to hide or misrepresent the actual events too. So assuming it was a cyber attack is a most likely common cause IMO.