Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - Violence

Posted by XenokRoy 11 years, 8 months ago to Culture
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This essay is from a surprising person. A congressmen from California whom I know very little about. He looks at the increase in violence and gives a list of things he thinks why its occurring.

Its an interesting read. From my perspective he hits a lot of points on the head but circles around the real central issue that all of his points tie into. He never gets to the heart of it.

For an example when he talks of the violence in society. Kids played cops and robbers, cowboys and indians... and other violent games from the beginning of time. The violence in movies and games is just a manifestation of the violence we have had in play. Whats different today? In the past the person/creature being killed was bad, they were evil from the perspective of the hero of the imagination.

Today we have games where you play the evil person and kill the good person; or even worse the person who is portrayed as the hero initiates force in many ways and the player is rewarded for it.

The cause of the increase in violence and the decay of our society is that in both game and life we reward evil and punish good. We call evil good, and good evil. We need movies with Hero's and Heroins again, not screwed up people. Make the star larger than life, something to look up to. Some would say that character is boring, I would say they are awesome. Atlas is full of them and its one of the reasons the book is so good.

We give breaks to people who racked up credit card debt, and by so doing force the banks to raise rates on those that were responsible with there credit cards. Then turn around and say debt is bad.

Within our culture we put people at odds, in conflict with natural law and that in turn creates more crazies. This root cause seems to evade even those who are looking for it, yet it seems so blatantly obvious. How do they miss it?
SOURCE URL: http://www.campbell.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3274:wednesday-january-30-2013-violence&catid=38&Itemid=300035


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  • Posted by ogr8bearded1 11 years, 8 months ago
    The biggest change I see in society is we stopped corporal punishment. I started school in 1970 and we feared the paddle. At home we feared the belt from my father and the ping pong paddle from my mother. Even if we did something that resulted in being punished, we were MUCH less likely to do that again.

    We played army as a kid. Didn't really have a 'good' side and a 'bad' side. It was merely 'us' against 'them.' We had the ENTIRE male student body one time receive a paddling because during recess we were throwing sweet gum balls at one another in fifth grade. No one threw them after that. I guess someone 'could' have gotten hurt if hit in an eye, but we were just having fun and it went on for several days until we got noticed.

    Its harder to say if integration has had an effect on violence, but I know it had an effect on teaching. Blacks wanted their children to attend White schools for the better education. Instead of keeping the same standards and having people fail, they lowered the standards so NO ONE got the better education anymore. Then it got even worse when diplomas started to be handed out based on attendance for 12 years instead of based on the students work.

    In sports they hand out 'participant' awards, winning and losing mean nothing anymore is what the kids are being taught, and look how that has moved into the financial sector with bailouts now. Failure is no longer an option, and if you do succeed they don't want you to keep your gains.

    This is why the U.S. is now crumbling.
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    • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 11 years, 8 months ago
      I think you just got to the heart of it! There are no consequences for failure, or bad behavior. "Let's make everyone feeeel good"!

      Cram that! I went to school for the first two years of high school, where corporal punishment was used. I never did anything to receive the smack of the long paddle with holes in it so there was less resistance on the down swing. Thank goodness! But, I was on the receiving end of a few spankings, and on one occasion, the belt. I crossed the street without permission, and being 5 years old, my mom wanted to make sure it didn't happen again. It didn't!
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      • Posted by 11 years, 8 months ago
        NMA, I would take it a step further. There are consequences for bad behavior, you get a reward. In life you get a reward if you run your credit card to high. Or for kids if they show up and do nothing they get a ribbon telling them they did well. We haven't just removed consequences we have placed rewards in for what I would call not just bad, but evil behavior.
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    • Posted by khalling 11 years, 8 months ago
      the things you mention are symptoms of a welfare state. and two generations of churned out "fairness" indoctrination. corporal punishment is irrelevant. consequences for bad behavior? well, that is important and too few parent apply them.
      The idea that school "raises" your kids is part of the welfare state and the results we see in society. If your parents are both working and too tired when they come home (because they have to give away 30-50% to government taxes) apathy develops in the nuclear family. add welfare to that family and the goal becomes-hurry up and start your own family. and what are the downsides to that choice say in the ghetto or inner city? It would take a strong teenager under such influence to walk away and create a new life. Our government policies and our voting did that. and that's why the country is crumbling (culturally)
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