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I would not have encouraged her to write a sequel, but I would have loved to have seen her write another novel.
"I don't know whether I will ever write fiction again. The difficulty is that Atlas Shrugged was the climax and completion of the goal I had set for myself at the age of nine. It expressed everything that I wanted of fiction writing. Above everything else, it presented my ideal man fully. I can never surpass Galt. More than that, I now have four variants: Roark, Galt, Rearden, and Francisco. There is no point in multiplying them. What worries me about my future in fiction is that the motor of my interest—the presentation of the ideal man and the ideal way of life—is gone. It's completed, fulfilled ...."
"If and when I see an aspect of my sense of life that I have not covered, then I will write another novel. One can't exhaust the sense of life; it is not like philosophical problems."
People constantly complain about flat characters and naive actions, and I remind them of Rand's intent when writing the model and that she used archetypes, or at least narrowly developed characters, because that's the best way to explain her philosophy.
It has been suggested to me that if I knew her I might not have liked her. I have no clue on that point because I haven't read any of the books that describe her and her life. That is separate from her philosophy and those books are low on my reading list.
My first reaction to the question was, "Yes, of course!" Then I read the first post and changed my mind. AS, in spite of its completeness, is a difficult and confusing book for many people. They're either not equipped to understand what's being said or they're unwilling to understand it. So then I thought of her non-fiction, such as The Virtue of Selfishness or Capitalism: the unknown ideal, and how they are a collection of mostly short essays that address one aspect of Objectivism or how Objectivism applies to a certain area of life.
It's fine to have a philosophical system but not always apparent how it applies to driving down the road. For instance, people ask me to describe libertarianism at it's most basic level. I think the defining nugget is "non-initiation of force." But that's too basic for a layman, so I usually go with, "I should be allowed to live my life in any way that I see fit as long as I don't infringe on the right of my neighbor to do the same."
That statement is hard to disagree with, but how does it, or the non-initiation of force principle, explain why welfare, public housing, social security, food stamps, the FDA, the EPA, the CDC, the minimum wage, etc are all very, very bad things? All of that stuff exists specifically to protect us, right? Are we going to allow the children to starve? How heartless and cruel!
Many of you are currently wondering, "Why does Timelord write so damned many words? I wish he'd get on with it!" An Objectivist would have to ask, "In my hierarchy of values, is reading all of this going to lead to a payoff that's worth it?" I hope so.
My recommendation to Ms Rand, if she would have tolerated my input, would be to write short stories or shorter novels that presented a more narrow issue and the Objectivist reaction or solution.
The above was the payoff. I hope I didn't overexplain my reasoning in the preceding monologue.
The 2nd payoff begins now. Ms Rand has left us, an occurrence which was ill-conceived since I believe she had a lot more important fiction and non-fiction that should have been written for her benefit and ours. However, we have two brilliant writers who have taken up the task, and those are the Hallings.
Their Hank Rangar (that's "Ranger," with an A) novels are well written, have characters who are developed, have great plotlines, suspense and action. There's even, shudder, ROMANCE! The protagonist, Hank Rangar (that's "Ranger," with an A), has ample opportunities to discuss why the central issue of the novel is immoral and he addresses it while both following Objectivist principles AND giving us a hell of a ride in the process. If I believed in the initiation of force I'd make every person in the country buy those novels and read them.
(D and K, you may now do the dead drop of the agreed-upon amount at the agreed-upon location. Turn the coyote skull to face directly east when you've done it.)
Timelord why are these things bad? They are the implementation of Marx's From each according to his ability, To each according to his need. Rand thought that the ownership of earned property by individuals should be absolute. Karl Marx wrote "...In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property..."
You may give all of your property to the poor - no one will stop you. Please stop demanding the right to give my property away.
First, a shortened version of the first sentence in that paragraph would be, "That statement is hard to disagree with, but how does it ... explain why [this list] are all very, very bad things? " Then I wrote a rhetorical question. THEN some of the text that was in my brain got trapped and never made it to my fingers and thence onto the screen!
I had MEANT to follow that paragraph with a brief restatement of two paragraphs above, something like "brief descriptions of the basic tenets of Objectivism are insufficient for the majority of people because it's not an intuitive leap from non-initiation of force to 'free healthcare for sick kids is immoral.' That requires an explanation of a logical chain of statements that end with 'forcing my neighbor to pay for my sick kid is immoral.'" I'm sorry I left that out.
I just edited a book which parallels AS philosophically
and describes a "way out" of our mess, for the U.S.
here 'tis::: http://www.amazon.com/Unsustainable-Tuck...
-- john
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"SEE, I TOLD YOU SO"
http://www.gradesaver.com/author/ayn-ran...
And her "lost" novel is due out in a week:
http://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/...
very much, CBJ!!! -- john
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For the second question, I say no.
What sort of sequel could she write? AS left us with the start of total collapse. So a sequel would either continue through the collapse and to rebuilding after, or jump to the rebuilding straight off.
In either case, what philosophical point of Objectivism would she be illustrating. All her writing in and around AS were to use the story to illustrate the philosophy.
The underlying question really comes down to.
What philosophical points does she still want to make?
The story is not so much the rewriting of the Constitution, but the eventual amalgamation of wilderness militias into one co-operative fighting force that defeats the last remnants of the robbers.
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/govern...
Slowly I began to see how the "story' was related to real life and the book was a teaching tool and it became more interesting. I was a little busy at the time designing control systems for steel making processes and I had just finished grad school. In addition, my wife and I just had twins so it took several weeks for a first reading. Somewhere along the way, the Penn Central went bankrupt which was the largest failure in US history at the time. Rand's story suddenly seemed real and the message of the book took on more significance to me.
I was still confused by the characters and their meaning. There was considerable discussion at that time about "The Great Man Theory" and it seemed that she was pushing that idea but not everyone can be great and great things can be accomplished by ordinary men if properly focused. I was involved in a book discussion group, led by our CEO but he dismissed AS in the usual way as a fantasy philosophy for immature adolescents. I was not willing to accept that but didn't have anyone to discuss the ideas presented. Before the internet, searching for information was much more difficult and time consuming so my development as an Objectivist came very slowly.
After many readings and the addition of her other writings, I have a completely different view of AS and the characters. I think she used the fictional story to present her ideas and did a very complete job of it. I am much more impressed with the philosophy than the fiction and am satisfied that she completed her task so I would not encourage her to write a sequel to find out if Dagny and John lived happily ever after.
the formation of the New U.S.A. incorporating objectivist principles,
and we could use it for our future!!! -- j
p.s. to your questions:: no, I don't think so,
and yes, according to the comments above.
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I also felt that Eddie needed better treatment, but he was written as a person of integrity but not a genius and his fate would be undecided. He is part of the group like Cheryl Taggart and Tony (the Wet Nurse) who could not survive without a better world. Most of us fall in that category, we would not exist without the geniuses who created our technological world.
Would you trade a few masterpieces like her books and her non fiction for a lot of wonderful shorter stories? she was a great story teller but there are a lot of those in the world and too few great thinkers.
Now maybe I would imagine that the chief of the Ute Beringians (who once owned the region we call the State of Utah and some lands beyond it) would find the Gulch hidden away in the old Hot Springs River Valley his people once owned, and might try to fight them for it. Of course he would go head-to-head with Ragnar Danneskjöld. But at the end, he would smoke a peace pipe--literally!--filled with tobacco from the Mulligan Tobacco Company. How's that for irony?
(Historical note: Chief Ouray, then Big Chief of the Ute nation, sold the Uncompahgre Valley to some miners who had discovered silver in the mountains. The town at the center of the real Uncompahgre Valley bears this chief's name.)
That said, this book could use a sequel. I would envision several novels, each complete in itself, making a longer story arc. Start with a "Quest for Atlantis," in which an independent scout--a concept that really will give Eddie the willies--will stumble upon Eddie, pick him up, and set out to take Eddie to a place where Eddie can thrive again. And in the process come to terms with his own state.
For you see, Ayn Rand never once treated the case of the independent scout, one of several who first entered the Old West and made their living trapping furry animals, killing them, skinning them, then bringing the pelts to "trading posts" to buy supplies to sustain their total lone-wolf existence. If Eddie despaired when he saw a wagon train, let him see an independent scout, the first "white presence" in the Wild West. Better yet, let him see a tribe of Apache or Ute or Arapaho who have, in the great collapse, walked off the reservation and resumed The Old Ways!
The world burns to a cinder, the Gulch survives as a utopia where genius and value reigns supreme, then expands after the rest of the human race has killed itself off in anarchy or starves from its ignorance.
an oath leading off, from John Galt:::
I swear that your life is yours to love, and if you attempt to fake reality
by taking my life or the products of my effort, you will be stopped
and prevented from asking anyone to live for your sake.
The "Prime Directive:" Never Fake Reality.
just an idea. == j
p.s. the enforcement of this prime rule would require that
everyone be armed and empowered for self-defense --
and Galt The Inventor would have a Zippo-sized "gun"
which would stop someone in their tracks for one hour,
allowing them to resume their life afterwards. . those
not using their gun for 24 hours would be impervious
to its effects for a single "hit" and the "gun" could only
be fired once per day. . just an idea.
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