I have never been bothered by corporations

Posted by Zach055 10 years, 9 months ago to Government
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I have never been bothered by corporations, but when I was in public school it was hell. I say that all public schools should be shut down, and all laws requiring kids to attend school should be made null and void. Schools should be run by corporations and teach capitalism, rather than the socialism that is being taught in schools today. The reason why poor people are poor in the first place is because of the government. When they get a job, they pay payroll tax, when they buy something, they pay sales tax, and on April 15th they pay income tax. The government imposes literally hundreds of taxes, and if the government would stop existing on all levels, there would be no poor people, no taxes, and no politics.


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  • Posted by $ winterwind 10 years, 9 months ago
    How about some schools are run by corporations, and teach capitalism, others are run by wiccans and teach...I'm not sure what all they would teach. The ones I know are broadly self-educated - that's probably what they would teach: educate yourself. There would be many groups, or individuals with a vision, each one teaching what it believes is best. Then the parents' job - with their child when she's ready - is to decide on which school for which child.
    Easy!
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 10 years, 9 months ago
    Corporations can be bad, you know. How about, "All children should attend private schools, chosen by their parents."? That's my take on it.

    Maphesdus makes a good point here. I love corporations also. However, when they form partnerships with government, look out.
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    • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 9 months ago
      How do you pay for it? I don't buy into everyone needing to pay their own way. That would increase the stratification between classes, which isn't beneficial to the society as a whole.
      On one of these threads - I think one that I started, but don't remember - I outlined my proposal for voucher system. Private education, but publicly financed via vouchers.
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 10 years, 9 months ago
        Well, you get rid of the amount you're paying for public schools. That's how you pay for it. Public schools aren't free. They are pretty expensive.
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        • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 9 months ago
          OK, but what's the specific mechanism?
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          • Posted by $ Abaco 10 years, 9 months ago
            That part is complicated on purpose. The funds are taken from property owners automatically for a reason. Obviously, I'm talking about something that many would view as a farce in America - just doing away with the public school system and taxation structure that feeds it. It will never happen, ever. However, to answer your question: Stop taking that money from property owners, fire all the teachers and administrators, let the private school industry expand. I speak as a parent with experience with both the public and private schools. I don't mean to sound like a smartass, either.

            My son currently goes to a charter school that is pretty hard to get into. And, Obama regularly threatens to cut Federal funding of charter schools. He does that because they are a threat to the bad status quo and not in favor with the teachers unions, for the most part. It is hard for him and his ilk to tolerate success (you didn't build that!)
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            • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 9 months ago
              OK, you get rid of all the public schools and all that goes with them. What do you do for the poor inner city child to prepare themselves to achieve a better life?
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      • Posted by $ Maphesdus 10 years, 9 months ago
        I personally think public education is a good idea. I've noticed that many people seem to think the problem with public education is that it's funded with tax money, and that everything would be fixed if we just got rid of public education and replaced it with purely private education. But that isn't the real problem. The real problem is that our government is implementing regulations which require all schools, even private schools, to adhere to the counter-productive standards of outcome-based education, rather than traditional education.

        If we were to assume (incorrectly) that the problem was whether the schools were funded with tax money or not, then naturally that misguided assumption would lead us to try and remove tax funding from public schools. But since the actual problem is not where the funding is coming from, but rather the goals of the administration and the type of curriculum being implemented, removing funding would be a counter-productive action, and would not further our goal of increasing the quality of education.

        Even if we eliminated public schools altogether, and had only private schools, the problem of government imposing outcome based education (i.e. Common Core) would still remain.

        We must correctly diagnose the real problem if we want to actually cure the disease. If we try to implement cures based on a misdiagnosis, we won't be able to actually cure anything, and may in fact make the problem worse through our actions. Good intentions may do as much harm as malevolence, if they are misinformed.
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        • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 9 months ago
          pretty much agree. The issue is that control is being wrenched from the local level. Regardless of funding or other items, control needs to be done as close to the student as feasible, ideally by the parents/guardians.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 10 years, 9 months ago
    What about when corporations like Microsoft promote Common Core and take over you child's education? Are you bothered then?
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    • Posted by rlewellen 10 years, 9 months ago
      That is a perfect example of the extremes of corporate power. This is similar to Atlas Shrugged when the government was gave an unfair advantage to Taggart Transcontinental.
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  • Posted by $ WillH 10 years, 9 months ago
    … and there would be no country pretty quickly.

    I like your thought process to a point, but the truth is that the government must collect enough taxes to support the military to defend the nation from those who would take what we have, the police to remove criminals from society, and the courts to protect the rights of the individual.

    I do agree with you on education for the most part, and that is another reason I love home schooling.
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