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Karl Rove: Only Way To Stop The Violence Is To Repeal Second Amendment

Posted by $ Your_Name_Goes_Here 9 years, 5 months ago to Government
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No, Mr. Rove, you don't understand. Areas in the US that have restrictions on the second amendment right to keep and bear arms are typically HIGHER in crime and violence than those that do not.

Disarming the population has historically resulted in very bad things...
SOURCE URL: http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/21/karl-rove-only-way-to-stop-the-violence-is-to-repeal-2nd-amendment/


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    Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 5 months ago
    This is like saying the only way to end rare medication errors and overdoses is to eliminate medications altogether.
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    • Posted by TheRealBill 9 years, 5 months ago
      There are two significant issues here. First, what is asserted here and second what he said.

      What he said was the only way to "end gun violence" is to eliminate guns. In that he is likely correct. As long as guns exist there will be violence which involves them. Only if and when we as a species entirely ceases any and all violence would we avoid "gun violence" - at which point we'd stop making them and likely destroy them.

      In that regard your comparative statement is correct. However, regarding the title given the post here, your analogy would be incorrect.

      Here is why your analogy fits the actual statement he made, and does not fit what was written here (for the benefit of those who *don't* click the link and read the story):

      Violence exists w/o regard to firearms. Medication overdoses and medication errors only exist if medications do. So technically, if there were no medications there could be no errors and overdoses of them. As long as they exist errors will exist and overdoses are probably going to happen, therefore the only way to be sure would indeed be to eliminate medications entirely. Not that it is realistic to expect it could be done - even if we pulled back and nuked it from orbit survivors would undoubtedly find surviving medical stores.
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  • Posted by Randman80 9 years, 5 months ago
    He didn't actually say that. He said that He was speaking hypothetically. He said the only way to eliminate gun violence was to eliminate all guns. Can't argue with the premise. No guns, no gun violence. But he said that repealing the second amendment was not the the answer.
    IMHO the answer if not enough guns. More folks armed, the more likely a criminal on a rampage gets stopped sooner. I love the yard sign "My Neighbor believes in gun control...We don't"
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  • Posted by nsnelson 9 years, 5 months ago
    They deny the tools of self-defense, which practically denies our right to self-defense, which implicitly denies our right to life. This is the Code of Death.
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  • Posted by AmericanGreatness 9 years, 5 months ago
    Yes, the problem is lunatics with guns, so let's disarm the sane and law-abiding.

    So sick of this guy's pseudo intellectual blather. How many times does someone on our side need to proven wrong before his "expert" status is revoked???
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 9 years, 5 months ago
    What utter nonsense. If you can make a bomb out of a kitchen appliance and some fertilizer, poison gas from a dirty sock or a cruse missile from an EBay drone there is no way to stop the devilishly deviant from making deadly weapons. Assuming that Rove was actually serious (which I doubt) he has completely destroyed any credibility as a defender of liberty.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 9 years, 5 months ago
    We have always had nut cases loose, but now they get a pass by the touchy feely crowd, until they do something horrible. Then they become the poster child for being a victim to guns' availability.
    Still no self-responsibility.
    No matter what exactly Rove meant, the fact is, Democrats and Republicans alike, are overwhelmingly in lock step with the UN and their desire to get rid of guns in the US.
    When will the politicians ask the real question about why acts of violent happen, which is not guns, it is people and their mental health, possible drug abuse, and brainwashing. So, the answer is, they never will search for real answers until we are banned so much as a butter knife.
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  • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 5 months ago
    Violence between people is a human issue.
    Not an issue of guns, bats, rocks, knives, or bare hands.

    People have been killing each other with or without weapons since there were people. Banning guns, or any other weapon, will not stop murder, merely slow it down.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 5 months ago
    Mr. Rove spoke ambiguously on this point. In so doing, he reminded me very much of Jim Taggart and his fellow rogues in AS.

    That being said: we all remember what Benjamin Franklin said about selling essential liberty to buy a little temporary safety. Let's also remember the context of that remark. Franklin faced frontier settlers who wanted British troops to guard their settlement against the N.A. raiders. Franklin advised them instead to arm themselves and defend themselves by themselves. Any government powerful enough to defend, can also tyrannize.
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    • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 5 months ago
      Karl Rove wasn't advocating repeal of the 2nd Amendment here, it was taken out of context, he said the only way gun violence won't happen [in any] society is to completely remove all of the guns, basically, he is saying that evil exists in people. As long as there are people, and tools, some will kill others. There isn't going to be an 'end' to this.

      The kid looks like a pussy though, if one of them had been armed (I'm not advocating we strap-up for church every day), but if one had a side arm, he would have definitely left the building without doing anything. He looks like the type that will only prey on the helpless.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 9 years, 5 months ago
    Well that would certainly let the police departments put that military hardware to use as they go from house to house forcibly confiscating 300,000,000 guns.

    Yeah, that's gonna work out.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 5 months ago
    The second amendment was put in to protect the citizens FROM the government when the government itself violates peoples' rights. The government now wants it repealed so that it can protect itself FROM the citizens.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 5 months ago
    I heard the tape and the whole conversation...that's not what he meant...He did say after that; That ain't gona happen along with other ways to stop this crap. I say...why don't we ban phyc. drugs and recall all project monarch participants and the next incident that happens...Government goes to Jail!
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  • Posted by gcarl615 9 years, 5 months ago
    I took one of my guns out of its locked safe and put it on a table on my porch, with a fully loaded magazine. I left it there for a week and it had not moved. It didn't go out on its own and find people to kill or maim It just lay there all by itself unattended and unsupervised. Violence is, it seems not to be in its nature. Only humans have that.
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  • Posted by kkeen842 9 years, 5 months ago
    Rove was NOT advocating repeal - just making point that violence involving guns is inherent with this most important & basic constitutional right!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 5 months ago
    I would ask Mr. Rove to tell me when banning anything that the public wants has ever worked. England is a prime example of an unarmed citizenry being prey to criminals with guns. Unless you are running a police state, there is no way to ban a desirable item, and even then it is difficult at best. The wonder is, why the myriad examples of this still hasn't struck home.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 5 months ago
    Whenever Karl Rove appears on Fox News, as he often does on O'Riley, I immediately pluck up my remote and go on a channel surf at least until a peek back reveals he is off.
    Yes, Rove makes me rove.
    That's because Romney lost the presidential election. Up until then, almost night after night on Fox News, a smiling Rove was holding up his scrawled poll tabulations all indicating Obama would lose his reelection.
    After Obama won, you'd think Rove would have lost all credibility. But no-o!
    Rove's smiling face was back on Fox News in a heartbeat. Once I even saw him lift up one of his scrawled poll tabulations as I was reaching for my remote.
    What are you gonna do, Klueless Karl when someone in a Leatherface mask unlocks your door with a chainsaw? Stay on the phone with 911?
    Tabulate this, Talking Head Brainiac: You only have seconds when it takes the cops minutes.
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    • Posted by NealS 9 years, 5 months ago
      I get a slight inclination that possibly you don't care too much for Mr. Rove? And I'm not saying that Mr. Rove is not a blowhard either. He isn't particularly a fan of mine but the headline is taken out of context to generate excitement, otherwise would anyone have even bothered to read the article? By not actually listening to what Rove or anyone else has to say we fall into the trap where we jump to conclusions and make gross errors in our decisions. Take those that vote "D", because it's the patriotic thing to do. Exactly what facts can they recite to back up their positions on any subject? None!!!

      These kinds of headlines are geared to generate emotion, and in some cases to further split the people in order to conquer. The president right now is again trying to insure there will remain a split between white and black, Christians and Jews, cops and the public, and any category where he can then tell them he is on their side. This will insure they vote as he tells them so he can continue to falsely support them in trying to overcome the dissention he has actually helped create. They will of course then vote for the big "D", it's the patriotic thing to do and he's on “our side”, we gotta vote for him.

      It's like PC, it's what could destroy the American way of life if the people don't see through the trash talk. None of its even related to the issues of what we need for a leader to insure that we progress and make this country free again. It's just another gross distraction. What really happened in Benghazi? Did Hillary not defend our people, did she order the stand down, or was she totally oblivions (incompetent) as to what was going on until it was too late? Why did she push the offensive movie theory? Why did she continue to push the movie story even after the facts had some out? Is she just another politician, or was she an effective Secretary of State? What else did she “accomplish” as Secretary of State? Personally I think she had the title but was actually campaigning instead of tending to duty. She’s the kind of employee that has to be directed and watched all the time.

      I also believe we all need to concentrate on educating our friends that are on the fence, our ignorant friends, those that we really like but that don’t have a political factual brain cell in their head. I know I’ve awakened a few, and I’ve totally lost a few (one in particular for life), but it will be more effective than just us relating the facts between ourselves. If everyone one of us can educate just one person, we’ll actually double our base. And then we’ve got to get all our political friends to do the same. We’ve only got a little over a year my friends. Get it on.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 9 years, 5 months ago
    Or kill off all such idiots. Sorry, a snarky moment there. Besides, if we killed off idiots the world would be quite empty. But definitely force such people away from the public trough and any authority in the political sphere.
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  • Posted by cjferraris 9 years, 5 months ago
    Eliminate all guns and people will turn to other methods.. Next it'll be crossbows, or something else. People that want to kill usually find a way.
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