Thought: our "leaders" have failed us.

When I lived in the PRC, I lived 15 - 20 miles away from both Sandy Hook and the Petit home invasion.
I believe that violent crimes by the mentally ill are getting worse.

Our "leaders" are no longer interested in "peace and prosperity", they are interested in agitation and "justice" (revenge).

There are probably just as many mentally ill people now as there ever have been.
But, for the most part, they lived with leaders who believed in peace and prosperity, so they did not have the pressure of constant social unrest to set them off.

Now, we have the agitators.

There is no peace.
There is no prosperity.

There is only "the struggle".

The *sane* among us feel constantly uneasy.... by design.

Our "leaders" have failed us.

I read. Where Mr. Obama discussed the root causes of gun violence with a group of Hollywood swells at a $33,400-plate intimate supper. My question is this: what can someone who can pay $33,400 for supper possibly know about ANY kind of violence, let alone gun violence?

The shooting was gut wrenching, particularly given that it happened in an house of peace. (As an aside, the shooter couldn't have been that messed up on drugs...he didn't try to shoot up a bar in the 'hood where he might well have ended up as a red stain on the pavement.)

I suppose Reverend Al will be there to comment how all white people are racist dogs whose only ambition in life is to shoot innocent black people. The DoJ has seemingly already reached that conclusion.

Makes ya wanna sh!t in your flat hat...

After we find out how this kid was unstable, we need to get rid of him before he consumes any more food, air or taxpayer money. I don't care if he is crazy. There are a lot a people, and we don't need this one.

It's unbelievable that this happened. I feel for the people that are left to pick up the pieces after this. I don't mean to sound unsympathetic but had a couple people in that church been carrying, the outcome could have been much different. These type of events remind me of our responsibility to protect ourselves.

Also I'm appalled at the comments from our dear leader. One more time it is twisted to condemn the gun and not the shooter. That damn gun just jumped right up in his hands and started shooting. We'd be better off if he would just go golfing for the rest of his term.

Yet another mass murder in a gun-free zone. Maybe I'm oversimplifying things, but places where the public is banned from carrying sure seem like easy targets.

My reaction is that this guy is one sick puppy. The pastor he killed, from I can read, was a bright shining light in a violent world. What a shame. My thoughts go out to all the family's of the victims.

It's ghastly. Racially motivated mass shootings are rare. It's like the risk of some extremely rare disease are bizarre freak accidents. It's not a sign of some massive problem in our society that requires extraordinary action.

Hello Eudaimonia,
One seriously messed up kid.... Sad, sad story for the victims and their families. It will probably be exploited by the race baiters. Around here, many years ago, public mental health facilities were closed down and people with problems were put out on the street with no concern for the public. Laws were changed that made it harder to have someone committed too. Just more political nonsense without any consideration for unintended consequences. Of course there was concern some people could be unfairly committed, but safeguards like multiple opinions from psychiatrists could have mitigated the problems. Solutions aside from creating potential mayhem seem to escape the ruling class...
Regards,
O.A.

I'm with Gov. Haley on this one: Dylann Roof absolutely, positively deserves nothing less than the death penalty. It went into that church with murder on its' mind (I'm not going to dignify the killer by referring to it by its' gender), so why should we coddle the little creep and say, "Aww, it's just a nutbag, and we should forgive it."

If it were my call, I'd let one of the family members of the victims flip the switch on that jackwagon. "It" deserves no mercy.

This individual had a corrupted mind, drug user, most likely a loaner... blamed the current problems in America on an ethnicity. This shows the problem with our educational system. It is not taught that blacks and whites worked, worshiped and intermarried from the earliest days of the colonies. It doesn't explain that the 1st recorded slave owner was in Massachusetts and was a black man that owned a white and black slave. It doesn’t explain that Harriet Tubman’s 1st husband was actually a black slave owner that actually bought and shared her as a slave with another slave owner.
Without knowing the truth…The oppressors in leadership win using battles between us to keep us from seeing them taking over our rights and freedoms.

We need to wake up to this quickly, time is surely running out for our republic.

Rioting over racially decisive Police actions. The purging of all High Ranking Officers in the Military who say they will uphold The Constitution over The President. Now Christians Massacred in there House of worship. Dose anyone still thing that Marshal Law will not be declared before the 2016 elections?

Thought: There is a picture circulating of Roof wearing jacket.
On this jacket are two flags: one of South Africa and one of Rhodesia, both when they were under "white rule".

From Roof's reported comments, it could be reasoned that he believes that the United States will turn into Zimbabwe (post Rhodesia), a country where the government under Mugabe perpetrated mass atrocities against whites.

So, if this is his motivation, his response is to spark a race war here?

I am reminded of Nietzsche's aphorism 146 from Beyond Good and Evil:
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."

I agree with the pundit who asserted that concealed
carry would have solved it on the spot. . yet it's a
sorry observation about our culture when you need
to go to church armed. -- j
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1- if one (non-psycho) person in the church had been armed, the incident could have been avoided or at least minimized.
2- If a young person has nothing positive to do (ie JOB, school; something he/she can be proud of ...), he/she may turn to negative activities (ie crime). The welfare state has exponentially increased all types of crime, from graffiti to murder.

Horrified. Those poor people, those poor families! These murders are the more heinous because they seemed to have been premeditated. The victims were intended targets and didn't know it.

Roof was taking anti-depressants that have the side effect of homicidal ideation. I don't know how much responsibility the drug companies and the prescribing doctor should bear, but they are probably not guilt free.

I also question the wisdom of buying a disturbed young man a handgun. When my son was about Roof's age, I would NEVER have given him a lethal weapon. He was just too unpredictable. I enjoyed shooting as a youngster and I would have loved to have shared that with my son, but prudence said that would have been a bad move. Judgment call.

If we are honest, and we mostly are here in the Gulch, the issue of craziness comes first and the bigotry second. The bigotry is the offspring of the madness. Another bit of psychosis is the father who, knowing that his son was at the very least unbalanced, gave his wif'e gun to the kid as a present. This makes him just about as guilty in my book.

I don't know all the facts about this tragedy. This is one deranged individual taking actions and this individual only represents himself. It bothers me when people believe that it means something beyond what this one individual did. Nevertheless if there is a trend toward racism and violence (many individuals), then it needs to be addressed in an effective way as possible given all people have a right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness. We must address wrongs in our society effectively. Higher population numbers means higher numbers of mentally ill living in the world.

It seems that ever since BHO took office, race relations have gotten worse. For some reason this type of tragic incidents have increased during his 2 terms. I beginning believe some of the conspiracy theories about these incidents that the Prez is behind it. He is a still a member of the Bill Ayres fan club.
What bothers me is that Fox has reported that the father gave the young crazy son the gun for his birthday and it was not registered weapon. So, it was an illegal hand gun, then why wasn't the father arrested? I don't understand any of this!
The President shouldn't have gotten involved. He is still trying to show how black he is to the Black Community.

There is no 100% safety. Only fools strive for it like Obama.

He's guilty. He should be convicted of murder, put in prisoned until he's executed. As hateful as the crime was by his own confession, his murdering human beings is more heinous than his crime.

I will never understand why any on of any race can do these acts other than a mental disorder that cannot be corrected. When the insane are allowed to walk freely amongst us this will always happen. When the Obama s of this world complain that this doesn't happen in other civilized countries is it because they care for the mentally insane.

You knew bit O would play either the race card or the gun card. No concern for the victims, this is an opportunity. Now he can push gun control harder, and please his UN buddies who want guns gone.
Too many young people are a mess, and I think it is from having their minds messed with from kindergarten on in public schools. Then they are medicated. They do do irrational, to us, things, and people die. Guns are not the issue, what is the issue is why won't politicians see that the issue is not guns, schools maybe. This kind of person would have killed with fire, explosive and any number of ways, he did not need a gun.

It's unbelievable that this happened. I feel for the people that are left to pick up the pieces after this. I don't mean to sound unsympathetic but had a couple people in that church been carrying, the outcome could have been much different. These type of events remind me of our responsibility to protect ourselves.

Also I'm appalled at the comments from our dear leader. One more time it is twisted to condemn the gun and not the shooter. That damn gun just jumped right up in his hands and started shooting. We'd be better off if he would just go golfing for the rest of his term.

By now we pretty much know the shooter had a drug habit, and the drugs involved were anti-depressants and similarly acting stimulants. I would like to think my pastor, his assistant, and/or the deacons would have figured this guy's case during the stages of evaluation for membership: telephone interview with the pastor, followed by a visit by at least two deacons.

And I start to wonder something else: did somebody program him to kill? If this were the AS world, I would point my finger directly at Floyd Ferris.

Today.....racism is perpetuated by the very people who claim to abhor it. It's the Statists who require, and maintain, the "group think" mentality to advance their agendas and who stifle the kind of peaceful coexistence possible through individualism.