why do we use the term "hate crimes?"
aren't these just crimes? . does the term "hate crime"
carry with it the hatred of the P.C. police or our
Social Justice Warriors? . is the term useful only
for social change purposes? -- j
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carry with it the hatred of the P.C. police or our
Social Justice Warriors? . is the term useful only
for social change purposes? -- j
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p.s. I am also living with right ear diminishment and
tinnitis, primarily in the left ear. . since you were a
medic, I heard, maybe you can empathize?
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double down and ask DBHalling to join in on my side! -- j
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Surely the First Amendment and principle of Equal Protection of the Law would require that otherwise identical offenses receive identical punishment regardless of any utterances made in or around their commission. Otherwise, the difference in punishment can represent nothing less than the criminalization of the defendant's speech.
of the term was "government." . and I agree that this
is the criminalization of speech or opinion, by its
association with behavior. . well said, Peter!!! -- j
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All normal actions demonstrate fundamental irrationality from government.
private sector!!! -- j
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The bigger problem is in attempting to heap extra punishment on a crime because of a certain inference made by the prosecutors as to motive. The purpose is to turn an objective/identifiable verdict into a subjective verdict and pervert justice to suit the agendas of those in power.
that's where the money is ... doesn't involve much
hate, in my view. . just avarice. -- j
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"Hate crime" laws are not really about prejudice or hatred, per se. They exist to punish terrorist crimes, by which I mean crimes which are intentionally so scary that they can intimidate a large class of people into doing what the criminals demand. (An example might be an IRA bombing of a store, or the KKK lynching a black person for visiting overnight in a "sundown town.") This bullying motivation not only makes the crime worse than it would be if treated only as a crime against the direct victim; it also provides additional motivation for the criminals, such that the usual punishments for bombing or murder (in my two examples) aren't likely to be enough to deter.
Of course, it would be better if the law could say this directly, and expressly punish the intent-to-bully rather than the mental state of hatred. But if written that way, the law wouldn't work in this country, because it's unconstitutional (I forget details) for a jury to infer that kind of intent without an actual admission by the accused, even when the facts make it obvious. I would allow this inference.
"hate crime?" . does the situation deserve this?
how about "heinous crime?" . if I were good at
wiring a stick of dynamite to a car's ignition so that
it would blow when the car was started, and did it
just for fun, to intimidate people into fear, it would
be heinous, bullying, but would it deserve a
separate category??? -- j
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smells a lot like 1984 to me. -- j
p.s. two charges equals two crimes, to me.
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Hate Crime is right out of Orwell's 1984.
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Today “hate crime” is mostly used by non-white persons as a defense against being arrested for committing some other non-hate crime such as a simple robbery or simple assault against some other person. Predominately used as a defense usually only when white enforcement is used against a non-white criminal. Some black cops are exempt from hate crime charges but that too seems to be changing more recently. As an example, you will never see a defense of hate crime used by a white criminal for robbery or assault. White criminals will simply be charged with robbery or assault.
Who is responsible for all this nonsense? Is it the criminals, the lawyers, or the cops? It used to be when some committed a crime such as robbery or assault, they were subdued, arrested, and tried for robbery or assault. It didn’t matter if the handcuffs made bruise marks on their wrists, or they got a busted nose in the arrest process. Society today will get exactly what it asks for and what it enforces by its actions.
The 13th & 14th Amendments ended slavery; the 16th reinstated it!
the irony -- everyone is further enslaved by the
redistributed-wealth curve of a half-black president
and the D machine's taxes. -- j
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from you to benefit those who deserve your
compassion, whom we will identify for you. -- j
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"love crimes" to a fault. . this belongs on the front
page of the new york times!!! -- j
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Regular criminals are victims who cannot help themselves due to their socioeconopolticosexualpsychocircumstances.
Hate criminals are evil.
This is the exact same reasoning used to declare some crimes "terrorism".
They're words used to fire people up and justify gov't actions.
terrorism is more like war than crime. . there, I differ. -- j
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The term "Hate crime" was created as a crime against "diversity" which is much much worse than murder. (sarcasm)