Making home brew beer is legal, easy, and fun, especially when you have some homebrew to drink while in the process of brewing. Every homebrew I ever made was better than what most Americans drink regularly. Homebrewing also has the benefit that the taxes you avoid pay for the equipment needed very quickly.
Maybe the Feds should step in and try to set some "Fair Beer Taxation" across the country. I think the people in Tennessee should riot and burn their business down. What does the president of the United States have to say about this?
After they tore up our softball fields, they started construction on NIF. Had it mostly finished by the time I left, I think it's in a constant state of updates.
Yeah, still good times there. All kinds of funding to be had. Sometimes just crazy, don't know if you were there when the Yin & Yang magnetic facility was opened and closed nearly the same day.
As one drove in the main gate off East Ave, and looked to the right. You would have seen a fairly tall building. I've been told that the doors on the building were the tallest hinged doors in the US.
the wiki article describes it as a magnetic mirror design which attempted to confine plasma for fusion along a central zone end-capped with yin and yang mirrors. . WoW! . we will eventually do this fusion thing, and we'll have power galore. -- j .
Unfortunately, the funding for the yin and yang got pulled before it ever had a chance to work. Much like the alternative energy projects we had at the Idaho National Engineering Lab when I worked there.
the political winds are so incredibly fickle. . but when a technology is ready, like "fracking," off we go! . we may yet find a miniature nuclear generator technology which will take hold. . I want one in my basement!!! -- j .
One can avoid beer tax easily in Tennessee. One can't easily avoid state income taxes in the 43 states that have them. Tenessee doesn't have state income tax. Hooray, Tennessee! Brew your own and cut out the tax man (except for sales tax on materials to make beer which can be avoided by internet/mail purchases.) A good balance might be living in Vancouver WA where there are no state income taxes, and one can shop across the river in Portland OR with no sales tax. (Beer tax is lower in Portland, too.)
Sounds like you have lived in Vancouver, WA. I did for a while and remember working in Washington, but making big ticket purchases in Portland to avoid the sales tax.
Chris, that isn't as bad as living in WA and working in OR, and paying Income Tax in Oregon and Sales tax in WA. Unless you buy everything on the way to/from work. A lot of Intel people have that headache. The worse thing tax wise is the dreaded VAT in Europe: 20% on almost anything, new, used or whatever. Socialism is expensive...
The VAT is pillage! That is the only real aggravation about traveling there. We had a case of "olive oil" shipped back. As wine, it would have had a higher tax. Still painful, though.
Yes, I sent a chip to a guy in England, so I couldn't fudge the price due to insurance and he got stuck with 40.00, on top of the 92 we spent to ship it, on top of the 196 it cost. added up real fast. Shipping is ridiculous too. I thought I would outwit the pirates buy getting the motherboard from Amazon, and the check out had the cost and shipping, and then when they sent me the invoice they had tagged the VAT onto it as well. Never again.
PA showed surprisingly low at #45. But we have insane state laws that make up for the low beer tax. You can only by beer from a package store. Unless you want to pay a fortune and buy it from a bar/restaurant with a license in which case you can only buy a six pack or maybe two. Otherwise it's off to the package store for a case.
And all wine and liquor is bought in state run stores only.
All in all, I'm wondering how they calculated this map.
For about $100 in equipment and the ability to follow a recipe and easy instructions, you can brew your own in your kitchen and beat the system. Brew on Saturday, bottle the following Saturday, drink the 3rd Saturday. 15 days from brewing to drinking. A simple delicious ale (5% alc) costs about 50 cents a bottle, and the beer will taste better than any of the most popular mass market beers. For about 60-70 cents a bottle you can make porter or stout at half the price of store bought if that is your taste. For a real treat you can make a barleywine ale for about $1 a bottle that sells for $4 a bottle in the store. How many friends do you have who would love a home made six-pack of beer as a gift?
I wouldn't mind trying this. How technical does it get? Not that I couldn't do technical (I'm an environmental engineer) but am just wondering how easy/hard it is to screw it up.
Also do you think it's possible to create an English style bitter this way?
The most important thing is sanitation (bottles, fermenter, stirrers, hydrometer, thermometer, anything that touches the beer after the boil) and that is pretty easy to do with sodium percarbonate. I'd recommend getting a copy of The Joy of Homebrewing by Charlie Papazian. http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Homeb... It has enough technical detail explained in everyday terms, and with it you can start simple and grow into more complex brewing. At its simplest you could just buy a can kit (hopped extract with dry yeast) add water and boil in a large pot. You also need other inexpensive equipment and bottles, too. I have collected bottles from a local bar and paid them the deposit. (They can be a bit dirty so soaking in bleach solution is advisable the first time.) I have bought swing top Grolsch bottles on Ebay that can be used repeatedly without needing a capper or caps. Glass bottles are more satisfying, but plastic ones with screw on tops will work. ( I never use plastic bottles.) There are thousands of recipes on line, and you will find hundreds of ways to make English bitter beer that will please your palette. There are also online sites that you can enter your proposed recipe and it will automatically calculate the approximate alcohol content and the bitterness based on the fermentable sugar and the hops you have chosen. that way you can easily take an existing recipe and tweek it for something new. Charlie's book explains the whole process, the equipment options, and the chemical reactions that happen to create the flavor, alcohol, and carbonation.
Awesome. This can be a new skill that I "dabble" in. I'm a great dabbler in things. I never seem to master any of them though. But I like learning new things. :)
One side effect of enjoying the product of home brewing is to increase the likelihood that you believe you have mastered home brewing. As Papazian says, "Relax, have a homebrew."
You should make a post about homebrewing. Put it under the "going gulch" category. I'm sure somebody will be willing to trade some mulligans for the gulch's own microbrewery. :)
Its another potential 'currency' for local trading in a real gulch without imperial entanglements. Lets see, we need to grow/import barley, hops, sugar cane, juniper berries....
Let me know. I rarely make it to the 3rd or 4th. Remember, you can decide how much alcohol is in the beer (up to limits of the yeast, that is.) Seriously, most of my beer is about 5%, but the porter, stout, barleywine, trippels are usually higher.
Brilliant! There's a brewery I like called Dog Fish Head, and they make one of my faves in the fall. Punkin' Ale. VERY limited production. They only sell it in 4 packs.... You've given me an idea, freedom... Thanks!
I have always thought that was archaic, but it's also rigged. Those guys have a monopoly. When I visit family out there, I can't stand having to remember where the distributor is so I can bring something to the inevitable get togethers. The wine I bring from though. :-)
We can buy beer in the groc stores here. Not wine or of course liquor. But that can be sold in privately owned businesses. Not like Virginia that has ABC, (package), stores. At least, that's how it was when I lived in Virginia.
It was that way here until last year. And there was only one dry town, right next to us, left in the whole state. The vote came back last year with a resounding YES! to allow alcohol sales. There is one store in the entire town, and the owner bought the empty attached bank and is putting in, I believe, a wine and cheese shop. Can't wait!
I'll start by apologizing for being so late to this thread, but it's been a hectic week for this greedy capitalist pig.
I too am a long time home brewer. However, I feel that some of the posts like those suggesting folks read Charlie P's book make it sound a little intimidating. So I recommend anyone interested checkout an online site like Northern Brewer (I have no financial interest, just a VERY satisfied customer).
It's awfully easy. Save two cases of bottles (no screw tops) and buy one of their home brew kits. You can spend a lot or a not so little amount. Then buy a recipe kit and have at it. Yes, sanitizing is next to godliness, but you don't have to overthink things.
Once your inner beer nerd kicks in, then read Charlie's book and start calculating the ABV of your beers. A couple of hints: don't start with big beers (high O.G.) that require a yeast starter. Buy smack pack yeasts - they are worth the premium. If you don't have a 5 gallon pot, borrow one.
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Ben Franklin
I'll grow the barley and the hops in the Gulch and make the tanks required for fermentation.
lovely place -- hot and cold running moonshine, mountains and valleys, and all 4 seasons are relatively gentle. . and you can get to the ocean in a day's drive. . music city, lakes, good food -- fun place! . we even have a good symphony orchestra or two. . cool. -- j .
Every homebrew I ever made was better than what most Americans drink regularly.
Homebrewing also has the benefit that the taxes you avoid pay for the equipment needed very quickly.
Resistance is essential.
Jan
conferred with the design guys about things being
made at y12. . good to see you here, Jim!!! -- j
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Keep your sunny side up buddy!
big, fascinating and powerful !!! -- j
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in an update phase for improved glass.
that place is fascinating, more like a college campus
than any other manhattan project site that I visited. -- j
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mostly, in the 80s and 90s. -- j
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design which attempted to confine plasma for
fusion along a central zone end-capped with
yin and yang mirrors. . WoW! . we will eventually
do this fusion thing, and we'll have power galore. -- j
.
a technology is ready, like "fracking," off we go! . we
may yet find a miniature nuclear generator technology
which will take hold. . I want one in my basement!!! -- j
.
trip -- enjoy the weekend out there in that gorgeous
country!!! -- j
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Brew your own and cut out the tax man (except for sales tax on materials to make beer which can be avoided by internet/mail purchases.)
A good balance might be living in Vancouver WA where there are no state income taxes, and one can shop across the river in Portland OR with no sales tax. (Beer tax is lower in Portland, too.)
Tennessee and New Hampshire don't tax wages, just investment income. But they do have state income taxes.
And all wine and liquor is bought in state run stores only.
All in all, I'm wondering how they calculated this map.
How many friends do you have who would love a home made six-pack of beer as a gift?
Also do you think it's possible to create an English style bitter this way?
I'd recommend getting a copy of The Joy of Homebrewing by Charlie Papazian.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Homeb...
It has enough technical detail explained in everyday terms, and with it you can start simple and grow into more complex brewing. At its simplest you could just buy a can kit (hopped extract with dry yeast) add water and boil in a large pot. You also need other inexpensive equipment and bottles, too. I have collected bottles from a local bar and paid them the deposit. (They can be a bit dirty so soaking in bleach solution is advisable the first time.) I have bought swing top Grolsch bottles on Ebay that can be used repeatedly without needing a capper or caps. Glass bottles are more satisfying, but plastic ones with screw on tops will work. ( I never use plastic bottles.)
There are thousands of recipes on line, and you will find hundreds of ways to make English bitter beer that will please your palette. There are also online sites that you can enter your proposed recipe and it will automatically calculate the approximate alcohol content and the bitterness based on the fermentable sugar and the hops you have chosen. that way you can easily take an existing recipe and tweek it for something new.
Charlie's book explains the whole process, the equipment options, and the chemical reactions that happen to create the flavor, alcohol, and carbonation.
As Papazian says, "Relax, have a homebrew."
Remember, you can decide how much alcohol is in the beer (up to limits of the yeast, that is.)
Seriously, most of my beer is about 5%, but the porter, stout, barleywine, trippels are usually higher.
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.p...
Homemade Dogfish Punkin Ale Clone video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TGZr5zG...
Let me know how it tastes. Good luck!
And I'm sure the package store lobby would fight anybody who tried to allow (gasp) grocery stores to sell beer and wine. Like in most states.
I too am a long time home brewer. However, I feel that some of the posts like those suggesting folks read Charlie P's book make it sound a little intimidating. So I recommend anyone interested checkout an online site like Northern Brewer (I have no financial interest, just a VERY satisfied customer).
It's awfully easy. Save two cases of bottles (no screw tops) and buy one of their home brew kits. You can spend a lot or a not so little amount. Then buy a recipe kit and have at it. Yes, sanitizing is next to godliness, but you don't have to overthink things.
Once your inner beer nerd kicks in, then read Charlie's book and start calculating the ABV of your beers. A couple of hints: don't start with big beers (high O.G.) that require a yeast starter. Buy smack pack yeasts - they are worth the premium. If you don't have a 5 gallon pot, borrow one.
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Ben Franklin
I'll grow the barley and the hops in the Gulch and make the tanks required for fermentation.
Cheers!
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mountains and valleys, and all 4 seasons are
relatively gentle. . and you can get to the ocean
in a day's drive. . music city, lakes, good food --
fun place! . we even have a good symphony
orchestra or two. . cool. -- j
.