Movies with an Objectivist Theme
Posted by Itheliving 9 years, 6 months ago to Movies
Name as many as you can that I have missed. Not counting Atlas Shrugged or The Fountainhead OK here is one just now available on BluRay
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Jan
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Did you see Jupiter Ascending? It was a good movie in its own right and it showed what a remake of B5 could be!!
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Do you still ride?
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Thanks for asking.
Maritimus
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"NO Cape"... Sounds better with the voice and the accent. :)
I saw one the other night that had some 'objectivistish" aspects. Magic in the Moonlight, with Emma Stone, Colin Firth... It was about a magician that only believed in empirical evidence and went about exposing fraud of psychics and their mysticism. It was a romantic comedy and the magician was almost taken in by one particular psychic. I don't want to give away too much. :)
http://www.fandango.com/magicinthemoonli...
One more: Executive Suite, William Holden...
The climactic scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcEOsGvT...
Respectfully,
O.A.
Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable also played characters who did not bend to the world, but lived by personal ethics and hard work. I loved Liz Taylor's scene in Giant when she had a fit over the men not letting the womenfolk talk politics
Thunder Bay. Jimmy Stewart plays an oil driller out to prove that offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico would work.
Boom Town. Clark Gable and Spencer Tracy play oil wildcatters searching for oil in Texas.
A real, real oldie with Alec Guinness "The Man In The White Suit." In which a chemistry genius is exploited when he invents a fabric that can be cut and tailored but is virtually indestructible.
One that many of you might argue with me about, is the Cary Grant Character in "North By Northwest." In my opinion, Hitchcock's greatest film. And, how about Anna, in "Anna and the King of Siam?"
Try the movie "King Rat" (1965 B&W) about a free market operating in a prison camp, and the epic Shogun (TV mini series) about an Englishman surviving in a strange land using only his wits and intelligence. Both novels are excellent.
This film (translation: Colour me Saffron), Rang De Basanti, was made with just US$4.0 million in 2006. Yes, sorry, nine years old.
It’s a bit too long (129 minutes) and the first half drags; that half is very poor with many hackneyed scenes. But stick with it. (The Blu Ray DVD, it has English subtitles).
There is a twist in the plot. A twist that is unpredictable and amazing, yet perfectly logical in hindsight—that elusive Holy Grail for writers. The second half left my jaw on the floor.
This is one of the most Romanticist movies ever made. Multi-protagonist stories are hard enough to write, but this has four journeys that integrate into one story.
I had stopped watching the DVD. My wife kept going. I went past the TV, saw the turn, I realized what the screenwriter (Renzil D’Silva) had done; the penny dropped. I could visualize the rest of the story after that, yet I could not leave it.
It would be a hell of a case study for a screenwriting class. It’s mind-boggling how a single incident can turn an entire narrative on its head. My jaw is still on the floor. Time to pick it up and start writing.
The World's Fastest Indian (true story of Burt Munro played by Anthony Hopkins) and
October Sky (true story about Homer Hickam)
Most today have far more socialism or some other form of collectivism in the forms of rewards and work rather than individualism and the power of the mind.
I was fan of comic books until my late twenties and then stopped buying them, but rather like the superhero moves. They often have a mix of objectivism and some form of collectivism in them.
The first Ironman was more objectivism oriented where the other two much less so. It still had the altruistic aspect of weapons manufacturing bad, giving away free power to the masses good, which shoots it down.
Can anyone think of a superhero movie that is objective at its heart?
Making munitions is just the opposite. Were I in charge of Stark weapons systems, I would have to spend a lot of time thinking about the uses to which my product would be put, and how to track every item I sold so I knew who was using it. (This gets complex when you consider resales.)
While we all agree that Capitalism is the most productive path that humanity can follow, many bad things (and stupid things) have been done by Capitalists. It is the right path, but everyone who walks it is not someone I would like; indeed, some I would fight against quite diligently.
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Batman Returns (1st of the new ones)
Very true to the comics and I would argue Objectivist in nature
Dark NIght: but they screwed the character of batman
The first Toby McGwirer (spelling bad I think) spiderman.
All of the captain America Movies. Captain America is great and well done in these.
Both Avengers Movies. Scarlet Witch is my favorite Avenger and they did an excellent job bringing her into the moves in the second one.
Guardians of the Galaxy is extremely entertaining
First Iron Man is excellent, but the rest are just not worth the time.
The X-Men Movies (this was my favorite comic book series) have not been nearly good enough for me, though the very first one was a good movie but not what the X-Men could or should be. the rest I keep watching hopeful that Fox will do it right, but they never have. If they ever do it right it would be objectivist philosophy verses various groups that practice some form of collectivist philosophy. About the closest thing to it in comic book land.
I would bet a few I am not thinking of right now too.
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*****
Sam Wilson: Hey, Cap, how do we know the good guys from the bad guys?
Steve Rogers: If they're shooting at you, they're bad.
*****
Steve Rogers: Attention all S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, this is Steve Rogers. You're heard a lot about me over the last few days. Some of you were even ordered to hunt me down. But I think it's time to tell the truth. S.H.I.E.L.D. is not what we thought it was. It's been taken over by HYDRA. Alexander Pierce is their leader. The S.T.R.I.K.E. and Insight crew are HYDRA as well. I don't know how many more, but I know they're in the building. They could be standing right next to you. They almost have what they want. Absolute control. They shot Nick Fury. And it won't end there. If you launch those helicarriers today, HYDRA will be able to kill anyone that stands in their way. Unless we stop them. I know I'm asking a lot. But the price of freedom is high. It always has been. And it's a price I'm willing to pay. And if I'm the only one, then so be it. But I'm willing to bet I'm not.
Sam Wilson: Did you write that down first, or was it off the top off your head?
*****
and perhaps my favorites from the show:
Nick Fury: These new long range precision guns can eliminate a thousand hostiles a minute. The satellites can read a terrorist's DNA before he steps outside his spider hole. We gonna neutralize a lot of threats before they even happen.
Steve Rogers: I thought the punishment usually came *after* the crime.
Nick Fury: We can't afford to wait that long.
Steve Rogers: Who's "we"?
Nick Fury: After New York, I convinced the World Security Council we needed a quantum surgeon threat analysis. For once we're way ahead of the curve.
Steve Rogers: By holding a gun at everyone on Earth and calling it protection.
Nick Fury: You know, I read those SSR files. Greatest generation? You guys did some nasty stuff.
Steve Rogers: Yeah, we compromised. Sometimes in ways that made us not sleep so well. But we did it so the people could be free. This isn't freedom, this is fear.
Nick Fury: S.H.I.E.L.D. takes the world as it is, not as we'd like to be. And it's getting damn near past time for you get with that program, Cap.
Steve Rogers: Don't hold your breath.
Jan
The last time I checked, socialists, communists, fascists, thieves and parasites walk, in spite of pants, skirts, tuxedoes or bikinis. All od them have nothing to do with capitalism. Capitalism did not cause their appearance, did not create their moral codes or their whim of the moment attitudes. Capitalism is not a blueprint for designing human beings. It is the most advanced socio-political system ever invented. The most advanced, because it is the one by far most compatible with the fundamental human nature and the one most conducive to the cravings for life and survival, freedom of thought and action and the multidimensional pursuits of happiness.
Somehow, I thought that your description blamed capitalism for human stupidity and wrongdoing. Nothing could be further from the truth.
I hope that you agree.
All the best.
Sincerely,
Maritimus
Just because you are a Capitalist does not mean that you are good or that your business practices are ethical. The whole foundation of the first Iron Man movie was that his munitions were now being used by terrorists - who then caught Tony as a big bonus prize.
My spinoff from this was that it is easier to just do good if you are healing people; if you are making munitions you really have your job cut out for you to be sure that you are not inadvertently doing evil.
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<shakes head>
That is as bad, perhaps worse than Antman. Yes they choose this Avenger to do a solo movie on.
I am just taking the opportunity for sending to YOU and to honor YOU with my 1000th input into this Gulch. It feels good to have arrived there. You have taught me a lot about it by just being so active in it.
Thank you. I am raising a glass of Veuve Clicquot in you honor. Notice how well her name fits with what we do so much here.
All the best.
Sincerely,
Maritimus
Jan
R O S E B U D...
I have been to the Hurst Castle, and have never seen so much priceless wealth on display in every square inch of every room, and only about 20% is ever in the house at any given time...
I dont buy this as an Objectivist movie. Charles Foster Kane got his money through pure accident, which is not true of Hearst.
H.G Wells did The Island of Doctor Moreau, War of the World...
In a scene where Boss and Charlie face the corrupt marshal in the crowded town diner...
Boss Spearman (Duval): "And we'll be having more than that with you, Marshal."
Marshal Poole: "No need to make the café messy...with folks. I've got a warrant sworn out for your arrest for assaulting Baxter's men."
Boss Spearman: "We got a warrant sworn for attempted murder for them that tried to kill the boy who's laying over there at the doc's. Swore out another one for them that murdered the big fellow you had in your cell. Only ours ain't writ by no tin star bought and paid for, Marshal. It's writ by us. And we aim to enforce it."
Marshal Poole: "Is that so?"
Boss Spearman: "We got no quarrel with none of you folks. Baxter's men bushwhacked our friend and shot him dead. Shot a sixteen-year-old boy, too. And clubbed him so hard...he might not live. Tried to take our cattle.
Your marshal here ain't gonna do nothing about it. You don't like free grazers in this town. We don't much like being here. But a man's got a right to protect his property and his life. And we ain't letting no rancher or his lawman take either. We got no intention of harming bystanders."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4werfN6f...
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