Is Santa Claus White?

Posted by airfredd22 11 years ago to Culture
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Is Santa Claus white?

The link below of Bill O'Reilly commenting on the Santa is white controversy exposes all the hypocrites in the media attacking Megyn Kelly of Fox News.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/17/bi...

I also believe that the continuing attacks and accusations of racism are beginning to get old and sillier by the minute. I would go so far as saying, more stupid rather than sillier.

During the O'Reilly broadcast, Juan Williams, a liberal that I once respected, once again has become a panderer for the group of liberal talking heads that just can't resist making everything about race.

Perhaps if the constant race baiting by these pseudo intellectuals and so called comedians like Jon Stewart who can't seem to produce a funny bit without attacking Fox and their personalities we could concentrate on the real problems of our nation. Those problems always boil down to simple economics. A robust business climate based on free enterprise is what this country has been lacking for far too long now. Let's hold the feet of our corrupt and idiotic elected politicians of both stripes to the fire and we will be amazed at the difference that free enterprise will make.

Fred Speckmann


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  • Posted by $ Tap2Golf 11 years ago
    More racist fodder. They had to dig pretty deep to come up with Santa Clause. Their larders are getting pretty low. Maybe they would like multiple colored Santas waiting at the mall so the kiddy line up could choose the lap they want to hop upon with their Christmas wish lists.
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  • Posted by Lucky 11 years ago
    Caution in small print- this comment may be distressing to literalists, religious persons, heterophobes and heterophiles-
    Robin Hood, King Arthur, Moses, Father Christmas, Harry Potter, Sherlock Holmes, the tooth fairy, Peter Pan, .. were all white Englishmen, so there!
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    • Posted by chadcall2012 11 years ago
      Can't forget Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Geoffrey Chaucer, William Shakespeare, and GOD FORBID we acknowledge that Abraham Lincoln was white...
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 11 years ago
        Thomas Jefferson was white!!! Oh no!!

        It reminds me of an argument I heard several years ago that black societies in Africa were so advanced that the people could fly. I think it was my brother who said, "If they could fly, why were they captured into slavery?" I don't mean to make light of any certain race. I'm the most color-blind person you'll ever meet. But, obsurdity has to be enjoyed. Doesn't it?
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years ago
    Wow. I guess I'm glad I haven't followed the "news" lately. "Debating Santa Claus's race" almost sounds like a saying that means a nonsensical debate.

    Politicians and media outlets prefer to debate things like "Santa's race" to debating things "the real problems of our nation". Maybe it's because the course of the debate is more predictable or because it gets the attention of readers. It also serves the interest of people who contribute to both parties and want to keep the "bipartisan consensus" that gov't expenditures should remain a significant share of GDP. The media outlets and politicians aren't evil or stupid. I sometimes try to touch some controversial topics when I do paid writing b/c if people starting sharing it or even commenting on it on Reddit, I get more views and more money. I certainly avoid shameless race/religion-baiting.

    I do not have a formula to get politicians and media off unimportant hot-button issues.
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    • Posted by 11 years ago
      Re: CircuitGuy
      Your comment dealing with your paid writing troubles me because you state that you sometimes touch on controversial issues because people may comment and thereby increase the amount you are paid. This could mean that you are slanting your writing for that purpose rather than giving your honest opinion.

      That attitude, if I'm reading you correctly, is disappointing.

      Fred
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  • Posted by iroseland 11 years ago
    I am now going to Grinchtasticly Scrooge this up. Santa is fictional, so it doesn't really matter
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    • Posted by 11 years ago
      Apparently you didn't bother to watch the O'Reilly report or have read up on St. Nicholas who was a real person and on whom the Santa Claus story is based. True, we have changed the process of pretending that Santa is bringing the presents, but the symbolic aspects remain and shouldn't be forgotten.

      Fred
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      • Posted by DaciaNichol 11 years ago
        I believe the myth of St. Nicholas is quite fabricated and non-existent as well...more miraculous than Christ himself depending on which story you subscribe to. But I digress...iroseland is correct nonetheless; however, even the mythical Nicholas was in fact white.
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        • Posted by 11 years ago
          Except St. Nicholas wasn't mythical but a Saint of the Catholic Church.

          Saint Nicholas
          Saint Nicholas;, also called Nikolaos of Myra, was a historic 4th-century Christian saint and Greek Bishop of Myra in Lycia. Because of the many miracles attributed to his intercession, he is also known as Nikolaos the Wonderworker. Wikipedia
          Born: March 15, 270 AD, Patara, Turkey
          Died: December 6, 343 AD, Myra, Turkey
          Nationality: Greek

          Fred
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          • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years ago
            As I understand it, there was a fictional Saint Klaus in Scandinavia, as well...

            The concept of "Father Christmas" goes back to the Greek pagan festival of "Saturnalia", where Saturn, leader of the Titans, father of the Greek pantheon, brought presents to a celebration in his honor. Food was eaten, masters served slaves...
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        • Posted by Augur 11 years ago
          Unforunatly DaciaNichol you are incorrect about the fabrication of St. Nicholas. Saint Nicholas was a real individual... If you don't believe me, look it up..
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicho...
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          • Posted by DaciaNichol 11 years ago
            I have looked it up and fail to find any primary sources nor secondary that weren't written far beyond his supposed death and inclusive of mythical stories. His cult that evolved is no more proof of his existence than our modern day legend of Santa Claus with all its movies, advertisements, stories, and so forth.
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            • Posted by 11 years ago
              You are incorrect, the records of the Catholic church verify his Saint status, they are not known to make Saints out of mythical figures. by the way, just because the sources quoted wrote their information far beyond his supposed death doesn't mean they are liars. they had no reason to suspect that he would be the model for Santa Claus. Furthermore, give me one reason that the "myth" of Santa Claus is a negative.

              Fred
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              • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years ago
                [Edit in for Highram: It is not negative. American culture largely makes it positive. That was inherited from the Dutch, for whom the modern Sankta Niklaus myth of fruit or coal in your stocking coincides with the advent of capitalism in the 16th century.]

                Making a list; Checking it twice.
                Going to find out who's naughty and nice.

                If you want presents, you have to be good. One year, my mother created a Goodness Chart with scores for the day. We needed some impossible minimum... which (miraculously) we made! But... on my street one year, one girl was so bad, she got no presents. The story was repeated for years.
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