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“Hate On”

Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 7 months ago to Culture
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This phrase, “hate on”, is becoming quite popular and I am convinced it is some sort ploy like the phrase “give back.” Hate is an emotional reaction, so you can hate something but it is meaningless to say you hate on something. I think it is an attempt to divorce the emotion from the person. K thinks is an attempt to turn into some sort force, which automatically creates victims. I think it is a way of pushing moral relativism. The idea is that hating is bad no matter what the object of that hate. What do you think?


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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 7 months ago
    "The idea is that hating is bad no matter what the object of that hate." That's what lefties say, but like their supposed tolerance, you will find they are hypocrites. Argue with THEIR hate for some person or thing and they will shout you down.

    I'll stop hating when there stop being people who want to rob me of my liberty.
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  • Posted by xthinker88 9 years, 7 months ago
    We need a gordon gekko of hate.

    ...ladies and gentleman, that hate, for lack of a better word, is good. Hate is right, hate works. Hate clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Deserved hate, in all of its forms; hate for death, hate for poverty and lack, for sickness, for evil and evil doers, for government and especially corrupt government, for ignorance and incompetence and irrationality, in fact, hate for all things, concepts, and people deserving of hate, is good.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 7 months ago
    I guess if liberals can not legislate morality with Hate Crime Laws, then this social, peer pressure experiment is the next best thing.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 9 years, 7 months ago
    I can see someone saying "bring the hate on", which implies that the hate is inside one and that it is ok to bring it out and act on it. For example, to riot, steal, kill the objects of the hate. I think it's saying that hate is ok. And if hate is ok, the violence is ok and will not be punished.
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    • Posted by khalling 9 years, 7 months ago
      it was recently used with db, in this sense. He was critical of a video recommended by a friend and in giving his critique of the video (which he thought was anti-reason), the friend replied: "c'mon. Quit hating on it so much." Then db decided to go down the rabbit hole of the origination for the term. Interestingly, this term is used frequently on Fox News: O'Reilly, Andrea Tantaro, Ann Coulter-to name a few.,
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      • Posted by Lucky 9 years, 7 months ago
        An incorrect position defended with apparent facts and logic is best criticized with correct facts and logic.
        Emotional responses can only be countered by emotion.
        In the case described, counter not with logic and do not use the word 'I'. Instead throw an emotional reaction back such as -why are you pretending to like that slop?
        The use of words such as 'haters' is an emotional response to try to evade proper discussion., something like pretending to be a victim.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 7 months ago
    I am in no sense an expert on current cant, but I will observe that my mother and one of her sisters, as they grew older, began using the word "hate" a lot - even trivially. They no longer disliked or disagreed with something, they "hated" it.

    I have wondered if anyone else has noticed this tendency in people as they age.

    I think that if you use the word "hate" for more than a couple of classes of actions, you are probably overusing it.

    Jan
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    • Posted by kevinw 9 years, 7 months ago
      To overuse the word is to trivialize it. Then it has less potency when you use it for its actual meaning. It causes misunderstandings in conversations as nobody can be sure what someone truly means. Many words are getting that way.

      I actually use the word hate less than I used to. Objectivism has given me a better respect for definitions. Old habits can still be hard to break, though. And I'm still in denial about my age. :)
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 9 years, 7 months ago
    I think it is just another way to try and marginalize the speaker, and dismiss their comments with a label. It is right in their with the endlessly tiresome saying of a few years ago, ""Talk to the hand!" By using "hate" one immediately roadblocks any chance of reasoned discussion.
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  • Posted by m1tmc 9 years, 7 months ago
    I'm hearing 'haters gonna hate'. Coming from Ky fans, coming from liberals about Obama, they seem to want to use it in any situation where someone has a differing opinion. It dismisses anyone so they don't have to consider why anyone would have a differing opinion.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 7 months ago
    Just another stupid lefty phrase. It reminds me of an old joke for debaters. When the person you're arguing with has you nailed and there's no come-back that you can use, just look him in the eyes, put a scowl on your face, and say, "Oh, yeah!?!"
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 7 months ago
    At it's core, what they are pushing is the rejection of the use of rational thinking on BOTH sides. On the one hand, those pushing the idea of "hate on" are saying that they refuse to listen to any counter-argument, automatically dismissing it as irrational! On the other side, it encourages people to get emotionally invested in their opinion - pushing them away from any kind of rational discourse as well!

    To me, it isn't about pushing moral relativism as much as simply a divide and conquer strategy. When cool heads and positive outcomes are the most important things in a policy debate, it's pretty difficult to stray too far. When hot heads and "my-way-or-the-highway" are the most important, debate becomes a shouting match with battle lines and more energy spent blaming and name-calling than solution-finding.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago
    depends on the definition and the current version of the definition. In today speak it means whomsoever St. James of Carville has cast as the villain in the street theater known as Presidential Elections. Find the opposite to that individual and listen for love on by any of it's three definitions.
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  • Posted by waytodude 9 years, 7 months ago
    I used to say I hate a lot. To hate is very strong and doesn't solve the problem. Even though it's very hard and I Do have to catch myself at times. For me I rather say I dislike to give myself a chance to correct my displeasure or to learn more in an epistemological sense. That is not to say after careful study I can then say yeah I hate.
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  • Posted by a59430802sojourner 9 years, 5 months ago
    I am a Constitutionalist. I had an attorney once give me the gibberish about the Constitution being a fluid document. I replied to him that the only thing fluid about the Constitution was the ink with which is was written. He was unable to comment after that. But i now have a phrase to use whenever anyone has a problem with the Constitution: 'Hate on!'.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 9 years, 7 months ago
    Well, from what I understand, Ayn Rand believed
    that the right reaction to evil was contempt, not
    hatred. (But if enough deep wrong is done to you,
    who can help it?) But I don't remember ever hear-
    ing the expression before. I have heard "Right on!"
    which I think came from the late 60's or early
    '70's; also, the "on" may be an adverb, such
    as in "Go on," "Fight on," etc.
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