Galt's Gulch

Am I Un-American

Posted by jnnrd54 9 years, 7 months ago to Philosophy
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I'm new to the Gulch so forgive me if I am approaching this incorrectly.
Everything I see tells me in my gut this Country is rapidly going down the tubes. I have worked very hard for everything I have achieved and I'm seriously considering liquidating most of my assets and moving them to another country before the government takes everything. Is this just smart or unamerican?

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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 7 months ago
    There is a lot of truth in the comments here, you guys.

    No, it's not un-American to feel this way or act on it. My family's passports are all up to date. In my research I keep zeroing in on Chile. I think America is in very serious trouble. Frankly, it saddens me. The violations on liberty we're seeing regularly now cause great concern not just with me, but with many of my close friends.

    A while back I researched placing money in a savings account in New Zealand. The interest rate was substantially higher than here, but so is the minimum deposit size for Americans (haha).

    We are in what I call "travel light" mode. Gradually simplifying our possessions, researching other lands, and not really increasing our ties here - if anything, pruning them. Just...staying a bit agile until America decides which direction it's going to take.
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    • Posted by jnnrd54 9 years, 7 months ago
      I too have ensured family Members I like have renewed/obtained passports and have converted some cash to gold. I have also stocked up on long life food. I'm thinking somewhere near water and I would purchase sailboat with engine.
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  • Posted by Snoogoo 9 years, 7 months ago
    I would say you are the opposite of un-American because by realizing this you are the embodiment of the ideals painstakingly laid out in the US Constitution to create the idea of America. Instead of un-American, can't you just be anti-tyranny or anti-fascist?
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 7 months ago
    Welcome to Atlantis, jnnrd54. Are you planning on going to a physical Atlantis? Several of us are planning such a place.
    You aren't leaving America. America has left you.
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    • Posted by jnnrd54 9 years, 7 months ago
      yes, I am planning to create my own Atlantis and I am considering a couple of locations. Have you selected your location?
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      • Posted by SaltyDog 9 years, 7 months ago
        I've been think about Belize or Estonia. With the rise of what appears to be a new Soviet Union however, I think Estonia might be out. I've been thinning out my possessions as well over the last few years.

        I remember an old Pogo cartoon, where he says, "We have met the enemy and he is us!" Doesn't seem as funny any more.
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        • Posted by UncommonSense 9 years, 7 months ago
          Alright on thinking about Estonia! Have you been learning your Estonian? It's quite different from other languages, but after awhile, you get used to it.

          The problem though, no matter what country one chooses to emigrate to, if you choose to live 'on the grid', the gov't can easily monitor you & your activities. Going 'off the grid' sounds like a great idea until one fully understands what it takes to 'live'. Hard choices to make either way.

          Soovin edu.
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          • Posted by SaltyDog 9 years, 7 months ago
            While in the service I learned to speak both Estonian and Russian, and I've been to Estonia. Nice country, nice people. Of course, it's been known to get a little chilly around the Gulf of Finland. This might take a bit of adjustment for a Florida boy!

            Ja seda ka Teistele
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 7 months ago
    America is an idea. That's why we have a word "un-American" but no "un-Estonian". The ideas in the Declaration of Independence persist even if the US gov't doesn't respect them. So IMHO what you're saying is very American, not un-American.
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