Obama Wants All Americans to Learn Code
I don’t think any big push to teach students to write code is going to save that crappy website at this late date. Poor misguided fool.
SOURCE URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XvmhE1J9PY
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Which is like licking the frosting bowl and thinking you know how to make a cake.
Much of what it takes to do GOOD design isn't even taught anymore. Ask the average CoSci type to write in assembler or tinker with machine code and you get that "deer in the headlights" look. They don't REALLY understand what they're doing at ll. Code optimization? What's that? Optimizing for size? Speed? What's this "code profiling" thingie?
Nah! None of that's important. Just plug in the java and let 'er rip. Who cares if the memory usage is order n^3 and the execution algorithm is n^2? I've interviewed "computer" grads who didn't know how to find the little-o of a simple algorithm. Worse, they didn't seem to understand why they should care. I guess computers these days are just infinitely fast and have infinite memory.
That's apparently what the Obamacare developers thought.
Anyone here who remembers "flipping bits"?
As usual, this f**king MORON has no idea what he's talking about. There are lots and lots of people who will NEVER be able to develop code. The only thing good about this video is how much older Obama looks. Maybe he'll die.
A partner at Deloitte and Touche hired me as a systems design consultant repeatedly because I could cut run times on simulations by orders of magnitude. Only important to Wall Street and the military now, and I can't ethically work for either. (I have found other productive uses for my time )that also doesn't require me to be an unpaid support guy for Microsoft ;^)
Re H-1B's generally… (found on line)
Are you a technically-skilled worker?
Are you looking for a job?
Good luck with that.
CONGRESS IS FLOODING THE UNITED STATES WITH FOREIGN WORKERS WHO ARE TAKING OUR JOBS!
Lou Dobbs explains how American College Students are being cheated by H-1B. The H-1B visa program was originally set up to allow foreigners to fill American jobs for which no qualified Americans could be found. But American tech companies like Microsoft and Oracle have used the program as a way to import cheaper labor while laying off thousands of American workers. They are IMPORTING OUTSOURCING. But it's worse than that! Companies are GAMING THE SYSTEM to avoid hiring Americans!!!
"OUR GOAL IS NOT TO FIND A QUALIFIED AND INTERESTED U.S. WORKER" (at the 1:46 mark)
Companies are intentially giving American jobs to foreigners.
They could NOT do this without the H-1B program.
Congress is in charge of the H-1B program.
Obama and Congrees spent $900 billion to "stimulate" the economy
When all they had to do was cut back the H-1B program to create hundreds of thousands of jobs for Americans.
The H-1B program provides for up to 65,000 foreigners to come to the USA and take American jobs.
But the "limit" is a LIE.
IN truth, the H-1B program is used to import more than a quarter MILLION foreigners a year to take American jobs. The number is effectively UNLIMITED and FAR from 'temporary'. The initial visa is good for 3 years - and can be easily renewed for another 3 years. Then the foreign worker can apply for citizenship, which typically takes 2 years to process. Even if they are rejected for citizenship, they are here for EIGHT YEARS. And if they get citizenship, they're here FOREVER.
Note: The links didn't survive a copy/paste, so I've preserved them here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL_fTICwF...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPblKUSX4...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFaj...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa#C...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uaofpy3D-...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa#F...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2VdN5jJr...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh6OLUPSH...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPZZ5Gisy...
The one where the company has hired consultants to teach them how to get around the immigration law is quite instructive.
What they need to do is freeze the program, verify the original paperwork, and retest the ones that are here.
Any other country on earth would see 20 million criminal aliens for what it is - an invasion.
When a country is invaded, there are two responses: Fight or surrender. Fighting means killing the invaders. Surrender means bending over and asking, "May I have another, please?"
Guess which one most politicians are for?
I think we could do more to discourage people from coming. I’m not talking about penalizing businesses for hiring. One thing I would like to do is make English the official language. Do you remember the guy a couple years ago in Chicago who put a sign in the window of his restaurant requesting his customers to order in English? It blew me away that he caught flack from the mayor for his sign. If we can’t get the simple common sense approaches approved I don’t think we will get approval for the firing squad. Sorry, Bambib.(I’m joking about the firing squad, btw.)
Next, 2 years hard labor (living in a tent city) if you remain or illegally enter after the deadline. I'm not talking about a mandatory sentence for someone who makes a mistake on their paperwork, or overstays their visa by a month. I'm talking about people who KNOW they're committing a criminal act when they enter, or continue in a criminal status for a long period of time. Sorry, but the "DREAM" kiddies who have been soaking up the free benefits for the last decade have to go. We don't let the kids of bank robbers keep the loot. Kids who came with their criminal parents shouldn't get to keep residence.
The firing squads would be for repeat offenders… but no need to waste ammo. A needle works as well.
Yeah, I know the odds of being able to do any of this are approximately nil. It's part of the pussification of America.
Tell you what, Mimi… if you're not willing to stop them - can we at least let them come live with your in your home? I mean, if you're willing to let criminals enter the country, if you don't care about the invasion, the least you can do is be first in line to bear the consequences of your choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGCh...
Actually, I was pondering: "I wonder if he's fighting a deadly disease?"
OTOH, in "Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution" by Steven Levy and in Tracy Kidder's "The Soul of a New Machine" the hacking heroes were those who insisted on Doing The Right Thing. Compromises in quality were anathema to them.
So, just to say, slapping code together is an old problem but not really the norm. I have made one or two computer user group meetings a week here in Austin - Cloud and Ruby, mostly, but several others, also - and I see a general concern for doing the right thing. I will grant, though, that you are not totally amiss and I will place the moral burden on management - or the lack of it.
Way too many sites are not properly supervised even today.
"Web" "programming" is EASY code.
Try embedded systems with real-time processing. Do it in C. Now do parts of the C program in assembler because C isn't fast enough. Now start thinking about how much power the mpu is using. OOOps! You only have 2K of RAM to work with. OOPS! You only have a 2mWh per week power budget!! OOPS! Your program is 14K… that's 6K TOO BIG!
Now we're talking programming.
Pasting some HTML and javascript into a text file is like watching a movie about war… compared to REAL war.
When I started, you (the programmer) wrote code on a green form and had it reviewed (by a programmer analyst) before it went to the keypunchers. Programs still failed often and it was the programmer's job to debug it.
Earlier this year, I spoke to a local Ruby on Rails group on "Documentation for Developers" and I put up a couple of slides of Visio tools, and also resurrected Warnier-Orr and Nassi-Shneiderman. My point was that it does not matter too much which tools you use, only that you DO NOT DESIGN IN CODE. Do not start programming until you know what you are doing.
For some "developers" that would mean never starting. ;-)
I have had the experience of coding as part of design. It's not always a bad thing. Mostly I've done it to help nail down thought processes, a sort of fleshing out of the design. In those cases, it's almost code-as-design-tool and I don't expect the code to be anywhere close to "final".
If he really wanted America to offer proactive learners more opportunity to earn more and provide for their families he'd roll back the tax burden on corporations and individuals.
http://www.corestandards.org/Math/Conten...
Whether the school has computers or not is not considered. Only the outcome, the ability to create mathematical models of realworld events.
That said, we have plenty of programmers here in America. The decision to give the award to CGI Federal was political. But you can read all about that yourself by putting "obamacare canadian company" in a search engine. Also, just because the company is "Canadian" does not mean that the work was not done here. I have worked for Kawasaki, Honda, Zeiss, and Capgemini and never been to Japan, Germany, or France. CGI has about 100 offices all over the USA.
See here - http://www.cgi.com/
I think maybe it's even a good thing for a gov't leader to say. As a politician, he can't "create jobs", but a teenager or anyone else who knows how to code and has passion for solving problems can!
Way to go, President Obama, on this statement!
Oh wait. It's O-Bomb-Ya!
Like water off a duck's back is credibility to O-Bomb-Ya!
This video calling for programmers from http://Code.org came out Feb. 26, 2013:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKIu9yen5...
I took a class in Ruby on Rails last year; and all of us were experienced programmers; but only some of us had ever seen the Command Line. That said, it is not true that the command-line interface is "real" programming" and dragging icons is not. After all, Assembler was invented to obviate programming in binary... which was better than flipping physical switches.
I believe that the bottom line is that as informatics continues to evolve - as did steam engines and radio; both of which are still with us - division of labor will create new opportunities while bringing new applications for older work. (See "The Economy of Cities" by Jane Jacobs.)
Computers have been integrated in our everyday lives.
When I was a youngster a computer (a small one) would occupy an entire room. The floppy discs were tape reels 20 inches in diameter and the room had to be temperature controlled. All programming was done in 'machine language'. All 1's and 0's. You needed to be very knowledgeable in math. Writing was tedious, testing was mandatory and results were not always good. Finding errors sometimes took longer to find than rewriting the entire program. Newer assembly languages made writing testing and running code much easier. Still one needs a good math foundation.
I personally don't consider building a web page or site coding, but it is probably the simplest of any computer 'coding' that I can think of.
Still we will need more people in the field and there are many avenues to pursue. Not all of these are Science or Coding.
Giving BO a little credit. He did not pull a gaff like Al Gore who claimed to have invented the internet.
It's as if Jeffrey Dahmer were to prompte a brand of Bar-B-Que sauce, Aileen Wuornos were to hawk a brand of perfume or Jane Toppan were to recommend people going into medicine as a profession.
Obama is the least appropriate spokesman for this topic, first because he has no credibility among critical thinkers, and second because he knows nothing about the subject. It's having a moron who operates by way of lies and sleaze making recommendations to sentient beings.
Timothy Cook would be orders of magnitude more appropriate as spokesman for technology training.
misappropriation of funds for the implementation of the web site is unforgivable. I believe that a better web site could have been created and up and running with a group of high school hackers (term to refer to individuals who like to tinker with computers 'hardware and software'. The entire site consist of HTML, Java script and some PHP. They probably would have done the entire job for say a paid college tuition, promise of future employment and maybe
a decent set of wheels with a bonus of free health care for ten years. In all that should have saved Sebelius $598,000,000.00 +.
But hell, this administration is redistributing the wealth. Going from taxpayers to foreign cronies.
How great is that. Everyone who is living within the borders of the US is paying for this.
What I cannot wrap my feeble mind around is
"How is it that no one is filing Racketeering charges against this administration?"
What is RICO Law...
In order to make it easier to prosecute organized crime, in 1970 Congress passed the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations law (RICO). Under RICO, it is a federal crime to participate in or make money from racketeering (organized, illegal activity). The law permits both criminal prosecutions, which can result in imprisonment and forfeiture (government seizure) of ill-gotten gains; and civil lawsuits, in which those harmed financially by the illegal activity can sue the perpetrators for damages.
The federal law targets not only organized crime, such as the Mafia, but also otherwise legitimate businesses or associations engaged in criminal activity. Federal prosecutors have used RICO to reduce organized crime and to fight white-collar crime, fraud, and political corruption. RICO allows prosecutors to bring all of an organization’s different criminal acts together in a single prosecution.
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I cut my teeth on WATFOR at RPI on an IBM 360/45 and even got into some pseudoassembler for debugging.
"My first computer" was a teletype in 1969 or so running 2400 baud to a "Tymshare" time-sharing system. I was using it to determine the intersection points of multiple histograms' peaks.
Then my department went to an HP2100A with CORE MEMORY (Google that...) When you turned off the power switch (key) everything stayed in the magnetic memory and "booting the system the next day" was as fast as the power supplies came up and you could hit the "Run" button.
And when we upgraded it from 32k to 64k, that one memory board cost us more than my first house and about six times as much as my first car.
Talk about the "good old days"?
Oh, and my wife did some programming on a computer that you can now see in the Smithsonian.
Lucky kids...
But I taught myself html and have had lots of web fun at work and since. Technology is fun!
Now, if BHO had made a pitch for "Critical Thinking," I'd be on board with that..
:)
It is not just that the world moves faster than the planner can grasp, but it takes directions that they could not anticipate. When Yaron Brook spoke here in Austin at UT last week, one of the students in the audience made the unsurprising statement that they are being trained for careers that do not exist yet.
Your pointer to "Critical thinking" was absolutely correct. While technical skills are important, other talents are their foundations.
It also had teletypes and punchtape.
The second computer I learned on (believe it or not) was a VAX in 1983 - 1984.
Vaxine: compile complete. Rick, do something!
I once asked him who Vaxine was and what that was all about. He had a Vax computer doing compiles, and wrote a script for it to notify him on the network when it finished a compile so he could resume work.
Dr Van Allen (of the radiation belts) thought my dad was a genius.
At the time, my dad was young, and took a stab at selling calculators (big, noisy mechanical beasts as expensive and big as a desktop computer today, and a lot heavier). One of the places in his territory was the U of Iowa. I gather Van Allen was working or visiting there at the time.
Anyways, so Van Allen was working on a program and was stuck. My dad didn't know jack about programming, but Van Allen walked him through the instructions, and afterwards my dad asked if it ever ran a certain piece of the code. Apparently Van Allen had inserted a "go to" or "return"- type statement prior to that section of code so it never got executed, which was the problem he was having. He went around to his colleagues bragging about how my father had "solved" his problem. Which I guess says a lot about Van Allen's character.
EDIT: doh, left out the point of the story. Obama talking about everyone and anyone becoming coders is what reminded me of the story....
Moron, again.
An effective coder needs to know operating systems, networking, server administration, sql, gui, lifecycle processes, beta testing, production rollout, and most of all REVISION CONTROL.
All of this comes with real dedication.
I was giving context to Hiraghm's assertion.
If he wanted to say computer science was important, he should have talked about the importance of computer science. Not every computer scientist has to be a coder, nor ever coder a computer scientist. Again, to elicit another metaphor, it's like confusing a bricklayer with a building contractor. Like saying cities are important, so everybody should study subway construction.
Saying computer science is essential != saying everyone should learn how to program.
Seriously... -_-
You want to get into the game development business? You don't have to learn to program at all. You can get a job as a 3d modeler, as a texture artist, 2d artist, animator, musician, composer, set designer, writer, director, accountant, marketer...
The computer science industry is much broader than just writing code, and encompasses everything from game development to database development to chip manufacturing to hardware repair and maintenance, to customer support... on and on.
What he was doing with this video is what he does with everything; try to make himself the Dalai Lama, the messiah, the benevolent lord and master who knows everything and should control and direct every aspect of American life...
As time goes on, computer science will become (once again) a limited and esoteric field, with lots of "programmers" who do nothing more than point, click and drag icons in order to design "apps" and "web sites", while the real coders will become highly specialized with far less disseminated knowledge than was available in the 80s and 90s to non specialists.
As for why I'm defending Obama here, it's because he just happened to say something that was true. I'm well aware that Obama has many faulty policies, but that doesn't mean he's always wrong about everything.
Technical skills are important at some level, depending on what you do for a living. But the brain surgeon does not need to know how to write a computer program - though it might be helpful for some kinds of work.In fact, considering the state of the art in surgery, it is not computers but ROBOTS that you need to know how to program. Robots are increasingly common. But, "programming" chemicals is also important. It just depends.
Consider the automobile and how few people know - or need to know - how to build and repair one. I could point to civil engineering as a basic requirement of any person who wants to live well in a city. Yet, millions live well in cities without knowing civil engineering.
Oops, that’s not what you meant. Sorry. Did I mention my spatial reasoning is meager at best. I am a female....
Or...just 'shoot up' some flesh eating parasites:
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/...
Back in the drugged out '70's, I had a friend that would pack raw sugar into a tooth cavity that he had. He was 'tripping' on the 24/7 pain...said that it convinced him that he was still alive, and that he was "one" with the universe. I never got it.
But, I am seeing a strange connect to what he was trying to do.
ObamaCare is the 'sugar' being packed into the festering cavities of the Millennium Generation...and they are coming alive. Their pain is suddenly all too real, and that reality is more welcome than the 'drugged' out state they were in.
The worm has turned....
Damn it, khaling! I am a female.
Ignore the previous comments, and just agree that it is VERY good that the current Millennium Generation is awakening from their Progressive coma, and feeling the 'pain' of that ideology.
The sugar in my past, has become the ACA in the present...and the toothache has got their attention. They are alive, and they have a voice, and they can reverse what they have done.
Some will see it coming a short time before the excreta hits the rotating device.
Others won't.
But once the shit is flying everywhere, the majority will figure out there's a problem.
Thanks, Blowhard in Chief Obama.
Then I discover that he's just pushing more governmental handouts to the end of making a already nerdy generation into a even more out of touch, basement dwelling trollers.
I should have known.
She says that these days, memory is so cheap that code has become very sloppy and potentially dangerous because of hackers.
Perhaps President Obama has this in mind?
QSSI is the remnants of a company called American Management Systems (you can see this info on Wikipedia) which also ripped off the taxpayers for $90 million, producing gobbledegook code. AMS was also minority-owned, before they filed for bankruptcy and reformed into QSSI.
When I was working in Northern Virginia for the Pentagon, we had to help the contractors, all of them black, who didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it came to programming.
Instead of utilizing us (the civilian government employees) who had degrees in computer science, we had to hire contractors, all minority, under Section 8-a. I once helped this high school dropout who posed in a job requiring a minimum of a university-degree as a computer scientist. I also repaired the crap code produced by another incompetent who was a psychologist posing as a computer professional.
One time a company owner bragged to me, "I got this contract, because I am Hispanic. If your country is so stupid to give it to me because I am not white, I will take it."
Link, please.
Btw, I didn’t point you up or down. If you don’t stop with the personal attacks no one here is going to want to read what you write. Isn’t that the whole point of joining an online community? Especially this one that reflects on rational thought.
It's a pretty bold assertion that firms owned by white males were not allowed to bid. It's one I find believable in today's social climate, but without some sort of objective evidence that it actually happened, it's just rumor. And if there's documentation that it *did* happen, that's one helluva weapon to wield against the administration.
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