What is meant by freedom to a collectivist versus a libertarian, is so unreconsilable, that we continually accuse each other of being incomprehensible.

Since our commonly accepted definition proceeded theirs, I suspect their redefinition process was a manipulative tactic to intentionally mislead the easily converted. In any event - - -

It is literally impossible to conduct a rational discussion with these folks.

Case in point - - -

Definition of Freedom:

Marxist: - - 'a recognition of objective necessity and the application and full use of recognized necessity in social practice'

Huh?????

US Constitution (essentially representing wester common law tradition) - - -

- - - 'the guarantee of the due process of law, which prohibits all levels of government from arbitrarilly or unfairly depriving individuals of their basic Constitutionsl rights to life, liberty, and property'

If the Left's goal is to defeat us with dialectical obscuration through, for example, the public educational system, they may be winning!

All good!

excellent article. overman, when we watch the videos via your link, do they get our "view"? or do we need to go directly to youtube?

Another excellent article.

Here I quote "...I have only seen one source that unapologetically castigates the supporters of socialism as in Atlas Shrugged. "

There is one older work I know of that does the same, "The Little Red Hen." The original of course, not the later revision where the farmer forces the hen to share the bread.

If somehow you missed hearing this tale as a child you can find it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smspKuKqt...