The case for GOLD and Dave Ramsey doesn't understand it! Justin Mohr Show on itunes/sticher
Posted by justin_mohr_show 9 years, 10 months ago to Economics
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But for those of us that can actually reason, that advice will not help you to maximize your financial well being. For example, I put nearly everything that I purchase on my Amex. That happens to be an Exec Amex from Costco (free since we have a family member who works for Costco). For the past several years, I've received about $1500 in rebates each and every year. Heck, when I built my house, I charged everything that I could and got over $2200 back. That's tax free money in my pocket that I would not have if I listened to DR.
Likewise, I have low interest rate loans (now only a mortgage and HELOC remaining). I could pay them down faster than I am (which is actually faster than the designated payments) but why should I sink that money into 4% interest loans when I get more than that return on investments? Yes, it's at risk and paying off the loan is a sure thing, but right now I've been successful at maintaining that level of return.
I'm curious, do you not download banking info into Money? I thought that most institutions stopped when MS discontinued the software. If they are still doing so, I'm going back - I hate Quicken, MS Money was so much better.
I use Money for checks only. Any information that is in the software in put in there by me. I do not do banking of any sort online. I have spent many years in the computer industry and fully understand that the "Secure Server" is not always secure. Cases in point: Home Depot, Sony just to name a few etc. The best way to be secure is to not pass vital information across the Net that could give someone access to a banking account. I am up on technology but I am still somewhat old school. ;-)
But at the end of the day it doesn't matter what I want / think should happen. The free market will be the deciding factor for who people go to for advice. And it just reinforces what you just stated.
Suppose the world collapsed back to basics. You may have by then accumulated a substantial stored value in gold. I, on the other hand would probably have prepared for that eventuality by acquiring a wheat field, a stone grinder and an oven. Unless you use some of that gold to acquire the means to produce something for exchange, I will eventually have all your gold and still have my wheat field, grinder and oven.
I guess I learned when I was young, by saving my car washing, lawn mowing, weed pulling, bus boy, dish washing, paper route, box boy money to buy my first home at age 20. I've always used credit cards, used to put the cash in a jar at home after buying gas to insure I'd have the cash at the end of the month to pay the bill. I once paid $0.05 in interest on a credit card, but got it back because it was a bank error. Never paid another cent of interest on a credit card in my whole life.
I bought my first real car ('57 Chevy Bel Air Hardtop) with payments to GMAC. After I figured out how much extra that cost me I made payments to myself to have cash to the buy my next and all future cars for cash. I use credit cards for practically everything to establish credit,. get miles, but pay them off each month. We've used my Alaska AL VISA miles to take the family to Beijing, several trips to Maui, mainland flights, etc., and I've still got over 300,000 miles left.
Twice a bank (Seafirst [now gone]) offered me $10,000 dollars, once for 3 months and once for 6 months, free of interest changes. I guess they expected me to keep it longer so they could add on some interest. I took it both times, put it in my interest bearing savings, and paid it back the day before it was due. They stopped sending me those offers.
"I took it both times, put it in my interest bearing savings, and paid it back the day before it was due. They stopped sending me those offers."
Boy, do I love that...........sort of "Ragnar-ish" in a way....................I don't get offers any more either......................
Happy and prosperous New Year! Looking forward to more great podcasts.
Nobody but the very dedicated and skilled at watching markets and trends should be investing in gold. If you don't understand it, you should NOT be investing in it, period. Otherwise, you are risking your assets based on the advice of someone who may (or may not) know what they're talking about. In this case, it may be good advice to buy gold, but, as I said before, it is YOUR responsibility to fully understand every niche and detail of the market you are investing in, whatever it may be. I'm not going to invest in an art gallery, even if everyone says it's an awesome investment, becuase I have no friggin' clue about that business.
THAT is why Dave Ramsey suggests you don't invest in gold. And aside from the last decade or so (in which I've made plenty of money on silver, and since sold when I realized my gains), gold and silver have underperformed relative to other investments.
His suggestion has always been to find a managed mutual fund that has a historical record of performance. In it you pay professionals to manage it for you. You can do no such thing with gold/silver.
AND, in the end, if North Korea sells a nuke and a 1000 mile range rocket to ISIS, which they then throw onto a container ship, park in a harbor in Galveston, launch and airburst it over the middle of Kansas, knocking out the entire electrical grid and most electronics in the US... what do you think your gold is going to be worth to the local shopkeeper? "Hey dude, I know your family is starving, but let me give you this 10 oz gold bar in exchange for that bushel of apples, so you can make some pretty jewelry..."
go to an expensive restaurant and have a $800.00 meal and when you get the bill put a kugerand down as payment and see if the will take as a medium of exchange? gold is only good for jewelry or use for computer chips.
That is just nonsense. At minimum an underground market will develop.
That's one reason that Russia hasn't dumped the tons of diamonds that they have locked up in vaults onto the market, and sell them at a slow pace. If they flooded the market, they'd be worth much less than they are in small amounts.