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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 11 months ago
    I have guns only good for self-defense, though my 12-guage has buckshot also good for bucks.
    As safeguard against an economic collapse,I'm suddenly thinking that a .22 rifle may be worth considering as well as hoarding a lot of ammo.
    I live at the edge of a Alabama woodland with squirrels all in the pecan trees.
    I've tasted squirrel before. Not bad at all. Way better than starvation.
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    • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 11 months ago
      Squirrel is good eatin'!

      I don't get it tho - why are they only good for self defense? My MBR doubles as my backup deer rifle, my primary deer rifle shares ammo with my M1A, which has taken its share of game... My uncle used to go handgun boar hunting with a pair of model 29's... my former best friend with her Glock 20... fun times! Not to mention - a 12 ga. is good for trap, skeet, waterfowl, pheasant, deer, as well as the Spotted greater northeastern badguy.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 11 months ago
        I'm not much of a hunter and now it shows. I think dove season is fun. I know how to rip those breasts out with my fingers.
        Maybe some day I'll be forced to hunt just to eat.
        I'll have six or seven survival books on hand to help me out.
        Having tasted squirrel, I would not call it "good eating." "Pleasantly edible with a wild taste" would be more like it.
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        • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 11 months ago
          Makes mean chili and pasta sauce... :-) My dad's pasta sauce recipie was originally designed for Dove - take 50 breasts, chopped and browned...

          (OK, they were big batches, and my grandpa was a commercial hunter when it was still legal to do so, and professional meatcutter, but still - Yummy stuff!)
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        • Posted by khalling 9 years, 11 months ago
          one time we just happened to find ourselves in Gila Bend AZ for the annual dove hunting weekend. all these private planes parked in the middle of nowhere and no one slept...it appeared to us anyway. You could fry eggs on the pavement and stupid doves were all lined along telephone wires watching the dressing of their cousins. BBQs set up outside every hotel room. crazy
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          • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 11 months ago
            Dove season in Alabama is usually quite hot and also humid. Plenty of water must be brought. Having some ice just to rub on your face does not hurt.
            I recall a dude who showed up at a dove shoot with just his shotgun and a bird bag. He did not even have a hat.
            Within three hours he was driving home with a nasty headache.
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    • Posted by Wnston 9 years, 11 months ago
      I grew up hunting squirrels in western Kentucky woods. They do make good eating. A guy I worked with would get his wife to deep fry Squirril skulls and eat the brains for lunch. They were tasty.
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  • Posted by Wnston 9 years, 11 months ago
    Other than not having the plus for all around survival with polymer stock, I still prefer my personal Browning take-down .22 SA rifle. Plus the Browning has significantly better resale value as a collector.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 11 months ago
    I always loved these rifles as a kid, but never owned one. Used to look them over in the Sears catalog every year at X-mas time.

    Have to say the Savage, Model 42, .410/22LR single shot (http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model...) seems like a better survival tool, except for the cool AR7 feature of floating when broken down and stowed.

    I read recently, that the originals misfired a lot with the stamped (vs machined) receiver components. Perhaps this is fixed in the new tooling.

    As you note, a "Take-Dwon" Rugger 10-22 with a folding synthetic stock, might last you the rest of your life, versus the AR7 becoming a club.
    http://www.ruger.com/products/1022Takedo...
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    • Posted by gafisher 9 years, 11 months ago
      The article describes the problems you mention as a concern in some models before Henry Repeating Arms took over production. The Henry version has much higher production quality, according to the article, and reviews on various sites around the web seem to bear that out.
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  • Posted by $ RVN11B 9 years, 11 months ago
    Evidently I was one of the odd ones in the bunch. I had the Explorer II pistol back in the late 80s and loved the hell out of it.
    In fact I had not one problem with the gun and often filled my quota of squirrels every winter with it.

    Reliability and accuracy were never an issue.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 11 months ago
    I think that Hamilton wanted a stronger central government, but he was the main architect of the Constitution. I think this guy is putting words in Hamilton's mouth. It is hard to square Hamilton's being the main architect (he wrote most of the constitution) with this point of view.

    Hamilton proposed a National Bank, but it was a private bank it did not have the power of legal tender laws and he purposely limited the number of government appointed directors and a number of limitations on government control of the Bank by the government.

    Hamilton's alcohol still tax was in line with a Mercantilism framework and was despicable, but his banking reforms were right on point and pro free-market unlike Jefferson's.
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    • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 11 months ago
      i should admit that Hamilton was not on the right path, but Jefferson and his group did not understand finance.
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      • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago
        Main architect, and the anti-federalists managed to save the abominable mess with the bill of rights. We'd have had an effective monarchy dictatorship in 50 years if it had been left without amendments. Aaron Burr may have been America's biggest hero in history.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago
    Interesting. At $275, a bit pricey for something that I wouldn't shoot very often (but priceless if I had to go on the run).
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    • Posted by Wnston 9 years, 11 months ago
      Don't understand why you wouldn't shoot a .22 LR SA more often due to high cost of higher caliber ammo. I keep my "eye" shooting skill consistently firing my Browning take-down .22LR SA and my Sig Sauer AR style .22LR SA rifle.
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      • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago
        Because this weapon really isn't good for target shooting, nor serious hunting. It's a survival weapon, and as such is very useful. Just not something to bring out to the range very often. I'd take my other weapons first.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago
      I was thinking a Ruger 10-22 with a folding stock and a shorter barrel might be more practical, accurate, and reliable albeit heavier and bulkier. I will likely go with a Browning Buckmark pistol though.
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      • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago
        Nice to have a longer barrel. I've actually got a 22LR target pistol that has an 8in barrel. Not going to put someone down (unless a really lucky shot), but the extra length gives a bit more accuracy so you can actually get lead on target.
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        • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago
          Agreed. Your last resort survival weapon must be accurate for varmint and protein production purposes, but small/light enough to transport easily on foot. The Ruger Charger is an interesting weapon due to the 10 " barrel but its not practical outside of the range. The idiotic federal laws make that weapon in the middle between the carbine (sometimes too large for ease of transport) and pistol (too small for enough accuracy) difficult to create since often it has to be licenced and the owner must pay a $200 tax and it may not be easy to transfer. Another way the federal govt makes security more difficult for everyone (except perhaps the federal police that should not exist under the constitution at all.)
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