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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years ago
    Misguided meddler searching for her 5 big media minutes. Utterly without any understanding of the issue. The only thing that might have an effect is if her life is saved by action of a CCW holder. Near death experience sometimes has a rational effect.
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    • Posted by strugatsky 10 years ago
      I'm a CCW holder; I would not save her life.
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      • Posted by 10 years ago
        I'm glad that you are able to carry, but worried that by registering as such, you open yourself up to having that weapon confiscated. I refuse to present any data to any entity that indicates I may have a firearm. All purchases, including anything related to firearms for the past 20 yrs has been by cash and private sale.

        The only carry law needed is Constitutional Carry - open or concealed.
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        • Posted by strugatsky 10 years ago
          A very valid concern. Becomes a toss up of protecting your self (as much as feasible) from the Big Brother later or from the little bro's now. Plan A for now, plan B on the shelf.
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  • Posted by xthinker88 10 years ago
    "How are moms shopping with children expected to know the difference between an activist and a threat to our families?"

    Easy. An activist is somebody who open carries to make a point. A threat to our families is the woman who wrote this editorial.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years ago
    If they feel this strongly about it then why don't they just shop somewhere else and stop trying to dictate business decisions for a company they do not own. That's what I will do if Kroger caves to these lunatics who prefer false security over the right of the individual to protect their own life. Imbeciles!!
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    • Posted by 10 years ago
      Because they "feel" scared by those scary guns and believe that they get to dictate to others how they should behave.
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      • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years ago
        It's like a battle of who has the strongest feelings...and you get more points for having the least amount of logic...and there's a bonus round for least factual, and most anti individual rights mixed in. Nothing matters but emotions...cuz I'm a mom and know what's best for EVERYone.
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      • Posted by JanelleFila 10 years ago
        That's a good way to explain it. I've never understood how stores can explicitly limit the right to carry in a weapon. If it is legal, then it should be legal everywhere. If people aren't comfortable with that, then it shouldn't be legal.
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        • Posted by 10 years ago
          I don't agree. It is legal in public places, but a private business should be able to determine their own rules. I just think that such a ban would be stupid. They should have the right, they just shouldn't be stupid.
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          • Posted by strugatsky 10 years ago
            Kind of interesting, isn't it - a "private" business cannot refuse entry or service to gays, transvestites, muslims, aliens (from outer space or outside the borders), but may and is often encouraged to refuse it to a person legally exercising their constitutional right. Welcome to the New Amerika!
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            • Posted by 10 years ago
              Well, I wasn't looking to get into that discussion in this thread, but go ahead. No, all those other "protected classes" shouldn't be protected, as far as I'm concerned. If they don't like being discriminated against, then they can go open their own business and serve that constituency.
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          • Posted by JanelleFila 10 years ago
            So then what's the point of making it legal? If every private business can make it illegal, why not just make it illegal? If there is enough public support to make it legal then I think that should be the consensus and those in opposition should leave the businesses alone and deal directly with the government (good luck) :)
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            • Posted by 10 years ago
              It's a matter of rights. As a citizen, you have a right to carry in public places. As a private business (and citizen as well), you also have a right to identify what is allowable in your private business (except for things that have been distinctly protected - now we could have a discussion on whether those should be allowed or not, in most cases they should not but that's a different discussion). Likewise, you have the right to tell people visiting your home that you don't want them to carry a firearm into your home, but you have no right to tell them they cannot have a firearm on them or in their vehicle parked on the public street in front of their home. Balancing the rights of all individuals is a challenging thing to do.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years ago
    Women like this mouthpiece for a liberal bunch give women a bad name.They overreact, do not study the issues and they jump at events as excuses. Columbine was a tragedy waiting to happen, and it was NOT guns, rather psychotropic drugs and values clarification in school. The curriculum was never studied after the incident, but we studied it a year before and said it was a disaster in the majking.
    Sandy Hook? No there is an incident with some conflicts in truth. The so-called weapon was taken from the trunk of the car - AFTER the shooting. The government was conducting tests just down the road that same day. One publicized dead girl was in a photo op with Obama a few days AFTER the shooting. Some of the so-called parents who went on camera were members of the actors union.
    These women better start doing some research instead of freaking at the word gun. They should be more concerned how their kids are being brainwahsed in school and overmedicated on psychiatric drugs.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years ago
    A few months ago I was a little surprised when I was in an Alabama Walmart and saw a mom with three small kids and a holstered revolver on her hip.
    My first thought amounted to "Well, no one is messing with her kids."
    I go to that Walmart on a regular basis and have not seen that since.
    An armed parent escorting kids does not bother me in the least. Good for them!
    Alabama now has an open carry ;law but you rarely see it.
    My grow son informed me of it. He prefers to conceal his semi-auto .45.

    http://whnt.com/2013/07/30/alabamas-new-...
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    • Posted by 10 years ago
      There's no reason to make a spectacle of carrying, but some states force you to open carry or register for a concealed carry. Unfortunately, if you open carry, you are likely to be approached by a police officer and present identification, upon which you are immediately registered as owning a firearm.
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      • Posted by iraeise 10 years ago
        If you've submitted a NICS check when buying the firearm, you're "registered as owning a firearm". The federal government knows who you are and what firearm you have (type, caliber, and serial number).
        If you have gotten the firearm without a NICS check, then your point is worth considering. Then you have to go for the concealed carry, but then of course, you had to apply for that permit, so you're "on record" either way.
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        • Posted by 10 years ago
          Nope, all private sale. And no CC for me.
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          • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years ago
            I once bought an AR-15 at a Birmingham Civic Center gun show. I handed cash across a table and the man and the man behind it handed me the weapon. No receipt.
            I was carrying it in full sight to my car. So were other folks carrying semiautomatic weapons.
            A beggar actually asked for money, saying he had missed lunch at the local homeless shelter.
            I was afraid he wanted to snatch my rifle and run. He was bigger and looked faster.
            I declined and kept my distance.. Saw a security guard and reported the beggar.
            The security guard ran after the beggar. Buh-bye, beggar. That's a story I like to tell..
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  • Posted by wiggys 10 years ago
    Maybe these mothers will be happy is a savage as is in Sydney shows up and no honest person with a carry permit was kept out of the store. maybe the guy carrying an exposed gun where it is legal will thwart the savages.
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    • Posted by 10 years ago
      I doubt it very strongly. They will only say that if no guns were allowed, then nobody would have guns. What they fail to grasp is that law breakers have no respect for laws and therefore don't worry about breaking them.
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  • Posted by voodoo59 10 years ago
    The best thing to do is ignore these self-important acolytes. Did you ever notice that they are very quiet until a mob of them coalesce into a stupid storm! Pay no attention to them and never validate their idiotic "calls to action".
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    • Posted by 10 years ago
      Problem is, they become vocal and the rest of us don't speak out in support of the business. About 18 months ago, when our Governor was being recalled, a bunch of the recall advocates tried to start a boycott of a gas company which had some execs who donated to the Gov. Many of us who supported the Gov started a Buycott, and went into the stations and told the managers that we supported the management in their right to support whomever they wanted. They boycott failed.

      Any of you who live near a Kroger, go in and tell the store manager that you support their decision to not ban guns. Unfortunately, Kroger isn't local to me, so I can't participate.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago
    They just never stop. MADD has spawned much more socialism and evil than any other group in the recent past. If you can't pass a law that bypasses natural rights--shame them with the Moms. How absurd.
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  • Posted by eilinel 10 years ago
    ".....allow anyone to openly carry loaded firearms, even though no permit, training, or background check is required to do so in most states."
    In what fantasy universe does she live?!
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    • Posted by 10 years ago
      I don't know about most states, but I know in my state, Wisconsin, if you open carry, there is no permit, training, or distinct background check required to do so. That said, if you do, particularly in the lib enclaves of Milwaukee, Madison, Racine, etc. you are likely to be stopped by a police officer and requested to provide identification. They will say that this is to ensure that you are not a convicted felon, and therefore permitted to open carry. What this also does, is put your name in a database as a known firearm owner.
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  • Posted by iraeise 10 years ago
    I'd boycott Wal Mart and Target and whoever else she mentions prohibits guns, and shop at Kroger for anything I could. Maybe even start a campaign to influence them to allow open carry.
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    • Posted by 10 years ago
      Why boycott them? Those private companies made their decisions based on their own criteria. I support trying to influence them to change that decision, but it is theirs to make. I prefer to boycott those who make decisions that I support.
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