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O - M - G !! I'm not often STUNNED...

Posted by Zero 9 years, 11 months ago to Economics
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This is the worst news in a long time.
Some of the worst news EVER.

We have succeeded in making the last Communist Power into the world's most powerful economy.
SOURCE URL: http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/economy/it%E2%80%99s-official-america-is-now-no-2/ar-BBgjXGo


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  • Posted by hattrup 9 years, 11 months ago
    This should not be a surprise to anyone who really understands the data. The trend is decades old (not just the last seven years....).
    China is what? - 1.2 BIllion people - of course their economy, if at all healthy, should, at some point, be bigger than ours.

    Among many, many regulatory reasons for moving manufacturing and other GDP creating activity out of the US is the big corporate tax
    rate ("penalty") for creating/manufacturing domestically.
    Recent accusations by O of this being unpatriotic is a example of how far we have to go to fix this - progress on a solution does appear beyond political will / vision. (again nothing new for decades).

    Regardless, I have no fear of China's "communist power". They are not a significant military power - all their foreign policy effort is effective, low cost natural resource acquisition and domination.
    My fear continues to be of our own governments restrictions and roadblocks to growth and prosperity here domestically.
    Our "leaders" are so lost on the focus of breaking all our legs, and getting a monopoly on crutch distribution, that they have no vision at all on growth and freedom.
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    • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 11 months ago
      "Our "leaders" are so lost on the focus of breaking all our legs, and getting a monopoly on crutch distribution, that they have no vision at all on growth and freedom. "

      You have just written a perfect description of socialism. Bravo!
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    • Posted by $ Terrylutz3682 9 years, 11 months ago
      Corporate taxes are not the big factor in Americas shrinking manufacturing base. The main problem is China's under valued currency. China subsidizes their manufacturing while our government over regulates us. Our government and big global business allowed China to manipulate their currency. This could have been stopped years ago but now China ownes us. I lived through this period as the owner of a mid sized manufacturing company---I know what I am talking about.
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      • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 11 months ago
        There are many factors, and you mention a couple. The fact that China has essentially a slave labor force - no, not actually in chains nor being whipped, but slaves nonetheless. In addition to the things that you cite, the US also had unions that demanded more pay/benefits than were justified by the value of the work, and politicians that pander to every base constituency.
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      • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 11 months ago
        Read Mises. Subsidizing exports (or taxing imports) doesn't help your country's economy as a whole; it helps the subsidized (or protected) industries at the expense of the same country's other industries and workers.
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        • Posted by $ Terrylutz3682 9 years, 11 months ago
          You missed my whole point. Sorry that I don't have a way with words like you do. As the owner of a business I can only tell you what I saw with my own eyes. Currency manipulation destroyed American manufacturing jobs and contributed to the decline of the middle class. Maybe you should read my book "In Pursuit of Manufacturing Excellance-The Signicast Story". Maybe then you will understand what I am saying.It does not matter now that China owns us.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago
      Exactly right. We SHOULD fear our own government more.

      If our body politic wasn't under active attack from internal corruption we wouldn't need to fear any external threat.

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