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Statins Are Pharma Trash, Research Mounts. Wow, You Mean Big Pharma Lies To Enrich Themselves and Bribes Politicians To Protect The Con Game, Too?

Posted by freedomforall 5 months ago to Politics
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"Between 2015-2018, approximately 11.4% of U.S. adults had high total cholesterol. There was no significant difference in high total cholesterol prevalence between men (10.5%) and women (12.1%). The highest prevalence was among adults aged 40–59 (15.7%), compared to 7.5% among those aged 20–39 and 11.4% among those aged 60 and over. Adults aged 60 and over also had a higher prevalence of high total cholesterol than those aged 20–39. There were no significant differences in high total cholesterol prevalence among adults based on race or Hispanic origin.

The U.S. statin market size was valued at USD 4.53 billion in 2023 and is projected to reach USD 5.10 billion by 2031, with a CAGR of 1.5% during the forecast period of 2024 to 2031.”

The flimsy, lazy cholesterol-causes-heart-disease lie is predicated on flawed and manipulated studies going back decades that purportedly demonstrate a correlation between high cholesterol and heart disease, which is simply taken as causation on faith, even though in other cases — conveniently, ones where the industry’s interests align with dismissing correlation as causation — they are adamant that the two are not one and the same.

Via Business Insider (emphasis added):

“Speaking to science journal Nature, vaccine expert Kathryn Edwards, professor of pediatrics in the division of infectious diseases at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine in Nashville, Tennessee, said that health authorities must strike a "delicate balance" when information is disseminated about the side effects of COVID vaccines.

Edwards added that, at times, it might be hard to even prove if the adverse reactions were due to the vaccine, particularly if the reported symptoms strike the patient days after the jab was administered.

Nature also cited a study that detailed how challenging it was to link any adverse events through vaccines — as this has to be done through specific lab tests. This is because correlation is not causation — and work has to be done by scientists to determine what caused the reaction, before comparing it with the probability that this symptom occurred purely by chance.”

Does correlation equal causation according to The Science™? The answer depends on which side of the equation the biggest dollar sign sits."
SOURCE URL: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-08-23/statins-are-pharma-trash-research-mounts


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  • Posted by $ Abaco 5 months ago
    The Seven Nations Study was pivotal in the application (sales) of these drugs. Problem is, in spite of what the leftists are saying, there were actually 22 nations in the study...not concluding that saturated fat leads to heart disease. I don't have a super strong opinion either way. But, I eat plenty of meat, tons of fish, and love eggs and I'm just about the only guy in our friend group who's ticker has been running without a hiccup. My workout regimen certainly plays a major role, along with my love of organic veggies.
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    • Posted by mhubb 5 months ago
      your body NEEDS cholesterol
      it helps make cell walls

      each person is different, drugs effect them differently, their bodies have slightly different needs

      some people have a natural larger amount of cholesterol. others do not

      my mom was on these damned drugs, she would not listen
      her cholesterol was still high, they did not help
      her diet was zero cholesterol

      she did from Alzheimer's
      i believe helped along by the damned statins she was taking for years
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      • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 months, 4 weeks ago
        A KNOWN side-effect is Transient Dementia. (They call it Transient, because it goes away when you stop the Statins). I KID YOU NOT.

        Our Diets cost us 80% of our health care costs!
        Carb-Laden. Ultra Processed. Addictive.
        Horrible Ingredients "red dye 5" and other such "natural colors/flavors" have been shown to wreak havoc on many kids. It's as bad as the sugar.

        A HUGE % of our ingredients in our EVERY DAY foods are BANNED in Europe.

        And the 33% reduction is heart attacks? MAGICAL MATH. Using RELATIVE RISK.
        AND they can run that test 1,000 times, and NOT Published the 999 that failed. WHICH 100% invalidates the scientific method they CLAIM they support.

        It's all a scam. Eat natural foods. Walk. Drink water...

        If there is 1 food/snack that you CANNOT EVER give up... They own you! you are addicted. The Cigarette companies brought the addiction game to junk food, and created the Cartoon Network (Guaranteed Ad Dollars) to make it go...
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  • Posted by AmericanWoman 4 months, 4 weeks ago
    Most if not all of the Statins damage your liver hence the need for often blood testing. "Doctors" change their method of calculating your good and bad seems yearly. I have had mine noted to be high for more than 30 years now with new calculations am border all of a sudden. Answer years ago, when I asked, I eat well, work out, walk, etc. what else can I do, well you know your mom...yes, she had high as well but that is not what took her early. I have tossed more Statins in the trash when they were "free" samples then you can imagine, and most doctors today must shiver when they see my name on the list of patients for their day.
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  • Posted by mhubb 5 months ago
    i will not take these poisons

    i can show a relationship between oxygen and heart disease
    i was told many years ago you can prove that distilled water can cause cancer, if you know how to manipulate the numbers
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 4 months, 4 weeks ago
      Neither will my husband, though they are pushed at him constantly. He did take them once, and couldn't even climb a flight of stairs. So, now when he is asked "do you have any allergies?" the answer is YES - statins and cipro (that's an entirely different story, but cipro is deadly).
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  • Posted by Lucky 5 months ago
    What I am not sure about is for that critical study done by Keys, did he select the national sources that gave data that twisted evidence, or was is chance- poor data selection?

    Either way, the results of one clearly flawed study became mainstream dogma in western medicine. Medications and clinics to reduce cholesterol have become a cult.
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    • Posted by bfreeman 4 months, 4 weeks ago
      Key's study was not only flawed but mostly made up. (Reference Perlmutter - Grain Brain, etc.) The whole cholesterol thing is nonsense. The doctors never measure oxidized cholesterol which is the only real issue in that department. I would prefer not to think of how many folks "medicine"killed with their "low-fat/no-fat" diet, but that takes me in another direction. Statins are trash and should not be taken.
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 months, 4 weeks ago
      Keys had 22 countries of data.

      He hand picked the 7 that made his case.

      As a naturally thin "smoker". he did not want his cancer sticks coming into the equation. he had a strong personality and RUINED people who tried to stand up to him. (His middle name might have been Karen... LOL)
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 4 months, 4 weeks ago
    After having my health ruined by Stains: Testosterone reduced to ZERO!, muscle aches and spasms, memory loss, chronic fatigue and weakness, and oh yes: no meaningful reduction in cholesterol.
    I dumped that garbage and my cholesterol numbers, while a little high, never changed.
    All the side effects remain to this day with the exception the muscle spasms, Thanks ayeholes for destroying my health at age 30.
    In the mean while the threshold at which your cholesterol numbers trigger a statin pill bombardment went from 250, to 220, to 200 and is now 180.
    Somebody(`s) are lying their asses off.
    But hey, you didn't want to life that long anyway. Right?
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 months, 4 weeks ago
      tutor-turtle. I would 100% recommend looking into Carnivore. Remove all seed oils. Remove Sugar. Remove processed foods/flour.

      Now if you are 92 with months left. Screw all that, LOL. But I've seen a 90+ yr old grandmother go from a walker to do headstand pushups against a wall... It all started with Carnivore.

      Turn the food pyramid upside down. At a minimum.
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      • Posted by tutor-turtle 4 months, 4 weeks ago
        I remember Prof. Jorden Peterson's daughter (then himself) were having severe stomach distress (the daughter almost died), and as almost a last ditch effort the went full-on carnivore and the problems went completely away and they got trimmer, fitter, calmer with more clarity of mind.
        Apart from the fact I like vegetables, i could go full carnivore all life long.
        Now you know why the N W O wants to eliminate meat from our diet, they know too damn well the dietary nature of 'we the people'. And how deadly factory food is. Throw in some bugs we can't digest and you have the perfect formulae for population culling.
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        • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 months, 4 weeks ago
          EXACTLY!
          Insects have NCHINs (sp) that many people are allergic to. They are to prevent animals from eating them. We cannot break them down. They have ZERO IDEAS on how harmful a steady diet of these will be.

          And to make them worse. They are powderizing them (ultra processing them). which always makes food more dangerous for us because it changes the absorbility rate. It's a form of "pre-digestion". Studies prove the EXACT same food for mice/rats... Powderized/Pulverized leads to a linear increase in obesity, inflammation and other disease states (the MORE your pulverize it, the worse it is for you).

          For me. I am diagnosed with CIRS, the same thing Mikhaila and her mom/dad have since been diagnosed with (duh, since there are genetic components).

          We have been treated worse than the slaves of Egypt who were dying of T2D from all of the grains they were fed.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 months, 4 weeks ago
    There is a genetic test to see if you are genetically predisposed to heart disease from high cholesterol. My doctor suggested this test. I am not genetically disposed. My cholesterol is at the upper limit of normal, and I never need to worry about it. Another crisis of medication avoided. I take ABSOLUTELY NOTHING now, after heart surgery, two hip resurfacings, bicep reattachment, a hernia surgery and several others. No Meds!
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    • Posted by jerryp 4 months, 4 weeks ago
      You say you are not predisposed to heart disease. What heart surgery did you have?
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 months, 4 weeks ago
        bicuspid aortic valve, remedied with a Ross Procedure (age 35), same as Arnold Schwarzenegger. My heart was twice the size of a normal person's and I could outrun teenagers, but it is not a long-term success if left untreated. Of course if you are a medical dude, you know this last part. My BP was ~150/50, and my rest HR was ~45. Apparently it is uncommon to have aortic regurgitation progress this way. Most people become sedentary in adult life, and the issue presents as shortness of breath on mild exertion. I practiced judo and played competitive soccer until my 40s (still play soccer twice a week), keeping pushing the heart to cover for the mechanical congenital defect.
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  • Posted by term2 4 months, 4 weeks ago
    I think one of the biggest problems today is finding out what is propaganda and manipulation from what is actually TRUE. What I need is an AI assistant who can decipher what is aimed at me, and telling me the propaganda quotion and what to believe....
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  • Posted by 73SHARK 4 months, 4 weeks ago
    Recommend reading The Great Cholesterol Myth by Dr. Sinatra. I didn't read the whole book, just chapter 6 which was enough. When my cholesterol got to 2:30, my doc sent me to a cardiologist who immediately wanted me to go on a statin. I tried a minimal dose of 10 mg for 30 days and it did knock it down to 150. When I went back for a second sitting, the first cardiologist was in a surgery and one of his partners came by and said that he wanted to run a calcium score. He told me if it was less than 50 then he would not recommend a statin. My calcium score was zero. Never been back. My last physical it was 180. Since my HDL was always at the high end, I never worried about it much anyway.
    I read elsewhere that the number 200 was arrived at the same way that the 6 ft social distance number came about during the China virus debacle, out of thin air. There was also a rumor about 5 years ago that they were thinking about lowering it to 180. Big Pharma could sell more statins that way.

    BTW, about 25% of your cholesterol production is used by your brain.
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  • Posted by jerryp 4 months, 4 weeks ago
    Do you have any scholarly articles to back up your statement that the cholesterol studies were “flawed and manipulated?”
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 months, 4 weeks ago
      OMG, search YT for Dr. Diamond.
      He shows the HORRIBLE statistics. I've met him at 2 different medical seminars. (I am not a doctor, but a well educated patient).

      The #1 most important test. CAC (About $150-200). It tells you your 5 and 10yr odds of having a heart-attack over those periods. (Required by EVERY Jet Fighter, NASA Astronaut). NOT covered by insurance.

      If you keep the info, and retest. You can literally see ANY progression of disease. (It's called an Agaston Score. Dr. Agaston/South Beach Diet. I've met and spoke with him at one of the conferences to confirm how I utilize the test myself).

      Next Dr. Ken Berry covers the LIES/COVER UPS dealing with Seed Oils (unsaturated fats) in 2 studies (one here, WHI or Nurses), and One in Austraila. BOTH buried SIMILAR results.

      As saturated fats were replaced with "healthy fats" both mortality went up and heart disease.
      BURIED. Later the scientists said "it wasn't what we expected".

      When Science can pick and choose the studies to show you. You CANNOT trust them.
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    • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 months, 4 weeks ago
      Looks like some references are in a reference to the original:
      https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/th...

      Seems very plausible to me. Saturated fats, fats, calories, sugar, butter margarine ... one thing after another. Now climate change, even more recently, COVID BS statistics, completely queered by government funding, obscuring any other cause for the money paid if the death was from COVID.
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