Are We Watching Pearl Harbor II In the Middle East?

Posted by freedomforall 4 months, 1 week ago to Ask the Gulch
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Is the Deep State desperate enough to sacrifice the USS Lincoln carrier strike group as FDR did to Pearl Harbor ?


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  • Posted by rhfinle 4 months, 1 week ago
    I'm sure that if our Navy is fired upon, the current admin will give the order to stand down and not return fire. That's how we lost Vietnam. The left doesn't want us winning any war, but like Johnson, they'd sure like to sell some oil and helicopters.
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  • Posted by mhubb 4 months, 1 week ago
    a US CVN Group can take care of itself

    the people in the group have the authority to act in their defense

    with SSNs deployed, Hawkeye radar craft, Aegis ships (3 DDs and/or Cruisers at least)

    and a reported USS Ohio class armed with 154 non-nuclear cruise missiles

    3 squadrons of F/A-18s, one squadron of F-35s
    support helos, 4 or 5 Hawkeyes
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 4 months, 1 week ago
    It is my understanding we still have troops in Syria and Iraq.
    They are stirring ducks, just begging for trouble to come find them.

    As for Carrier Groups, There has been an on-going concern for decades ever since France started selling Exocet missiles to whoever had hard cash.
    Now with the new hypersonic missile technology the threat level is off the charts, they cannot evade or shoot down these nap-of-the-earth hypersonic cruise missiles. If the Russians and/or Chinese have shared this missile tech with Iran/Qatar/UAE/fill-in-the-blank, big lumbering boats like a carrier groups don't stand a chance.
    Directly antagonizing either China or Russia almost garentees we are going to find out the hard way just how vulnerable these big targets are.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 4 months, 1 week ago
    In listening to the news today I thought that it sounds like Israel is about to get attacked from three different directions. WWIII before the election(?)
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    • Posted by 4 months, 1 week ago
      Then Iran says they are rethinking it, per the news.
      Putin would be laughing at how much money the US just wasted (again) if he wasn't distracted by a minor invasion.
      Xi is almost certainly glad to see the neocons continuing to commit suicide.
      Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 months, 1 week ago
    Go to war. We will wipe the floor with them, and it dooms any chance the Demon-Rats have at reelection. Wipe out Yemen and Iran.
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    • Posted by 4 months, 1 week ago
      The military is controlled by the Deep State.
      They want another Afghanistan or Viet Nam, not a Grenada.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 months, 1 week ago
        Will be Iraq. I stand by my statement. They may want it now, but may suffer when they lose POTUS and both houses.
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        • Posted by 4 months, 1 week ago
          I'd love for it to be so simple as 'bomb them back to the stone age', but that has not worked except possibly in WW2.
          Iraq? Our freedom hasn't recovered from Iraq. War only serves the state and the corrupt banking and war industries.
          Deep State hasn't lost control of con-gress in 70 years. GOP controlled seats have surrendered to the left repeatedly.
          Losing freedom just a little slower is not a successful plan.
          Now a war that destroys all competitors of the US, like WW2 did, would be very good for business in the US.
          Not likely to happen again unless there is a way to return nukes back to the launch points.
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  • Posted by Lucky 4 months, 1 week ago
    Question has no meaning in the context of the behavior of Iran which has put itself in a state of growing hostility to the US for decades since the Islamic Extremists overthrew the Shah.
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    • Posted by 4 months, 1 week ago
      The point is that Iran has been described by media with some of the same interests as
      Japan before Pearl Harbor, and is a real danger to D.C.'s control in the Middle East.

      My view is that naval ships are very vulnerable to swarms of relatively low cost drones
      launched from a country the size of Iran (and its surrogates in the Middle East.)

      War with evil Iran is just what the Deep State in D.C. wants to maintain control over the
      Trump's conservative MAGA camp. Loss of a few capital ships and a few thousand
      sailors is minor collateral damage to the sociopaths in D.C. just as the WTC was in 2001.
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