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Why the Assassination Denials?

Posted by $ Abaco 4 months, 2 weeks ago to Ask the Gulch
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I have to ask...Why are people saying things like "it wasn't a bullet that hit Trump's ear, but a piece of the teleprompter". And, "He bent down and bit a packet of fake blood to fake his injury." And, "It was staged." And, "There was a loud noise and Trump fell down before the Secret Service escorted him off the stage." Combine this with the very common remark from so many people openly wishing that Trump had been killed....AND THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE! I have to ask my Gulchers....What is going on in these people's heads with these denials? I just can't wrap my head around it. Is it driven by a fear of igniting Trump's base? When he stood up and yelled "Fight!" three times that was enough for me. I said, "He just won." The intellectual decline of America is unprecedented in human history, it seems.


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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    You ask, "Why the assassination denials?" The answer is that THEY can't stand that A = A.
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 4 months, 2 weeks ago
      A=A, The most fundamental explanation (that most libs don’t even understand) of why men are not women. A family member asked me why I didn’t support transgenderism, and that was my answer. We are no longer speaking.
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      • Posted by $ rainman0720 4 months, 2 weeks ago
        And at the risk of sticking my nose where it doesn't belong, I'd be willing to bet you haven't lost any sleep over that.
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        • Posted by $ gharkness 4 months, 2 weeks ago
          Actually, when it is a child you have birthed from your own body, as in my case, yes, you lose a lot of sleep. But I don't mind you asking. It's really hard to come to grips with this, but one thing I've learned is that this is basically a growing phenomenon across the US. There are THOUSANDS of parents like me who have lost contact with one or more of their children, of course not all on account of transgenderism. There are many reasons.
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          • Posted by $ 4 months, 2 weeks ago
            Thanks for sharing. I feel for you. The marxists love getting to the kids. My daughter, at 14, parrots lefty talking points before I ever hear them. Smart of the marxists...
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            • Posted by $ gharkness 4 months, 2 weeks ago
              Indeed it is smart of them. Unfortunately, my daughter is 53 and should have better sense. The worst of it is: SHE's not the transgender person! It's some guy she's "dating" who I haven't ever met, but I made some passing remark about men being men and somehow that applied to him. And I refused to take it back.

              IOW, she was mad because I am conservative and she's all of a sudden discovered being a lefty.

              Thank you, though, for your considerate words!
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    • Posted by $ rainman0720 4 months, 2 weeks ago
      You're spot on, and something I believe Galt said in his speech is being played out before our eyes. He said something about them wanting to create reality simply by wishing it into reality.

      Which is why the science deniers (and they're almost all on the left, IMO) can't handle that XX and XY are it. I can get up one morning and say "I feel like shit today", and that doesn't mean I AM shit; it merely means I feel like it. I can say "I feel like a fire hydrant; everyone who walks by lifts his leg and pees on me". But that doesn't make me a fire hydrant; it merely means I feel like one.

      On a comical side note, if I was a female boxer, I would consistently hit Khelif below the belt with everything I had. When asked why later in a press conference, I would say "Well, since I was fighting a guy, I figured the only way to win was to punch him in the gonads."
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  • Posted by mhubb 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    the car JFK was in slowed and/or stopped

    so he was setup
    and this is still denied to this day
    the faked / changed Zupruder film clearly shows the car slowed and then sped up

    the left denies Truth, it can't deal with it
    so we get a male (i will not call that POS a Man) beating a woman
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    • Posted by tutor-turtle 4 months, 2 weeks ago
      I saw that in the Olson film.
      After the first shots missed, the driver slowed so the shooter (from the bridge) could get the killing shot in.
      The motor cycle cop following could barley avoid running into the back of the limo.
      Anyone with any amount of shooting experience knows how the physics works.
      The Zepruder film was totally hacked.
      Why did it take four/five years for the film to come out?
      With the advent of smart phones, this all changes.
      You remember the Las Vegas shooting?
      The FBI asked for everyones phones, then gave then back totally wiped... never give up your phone after an incident. Any incident.
      Offer to forward a copy. Period.
      You might have noticed, nobody let the agencies take their phones after President Trump's assassination attempt.
      We learn our lessons, sometimes the hard way.

      "Not burdened by the past"? as CamelToe would suggest. .
      Remembering your past is how you don't make the same mistakes, over and over.
      Is our Constitution a Burden?
      Is our Holy Bible a Burden?
      Are our fallen solders a burden?
      What burden could she possibly be talking about?
      They don't come much more stupid than that woman.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 4 months, 2 weeks ago
      Me the dino believes Trump was ALSO set up. Otherwise, that bare for an unguarded roof lined up for a far too easy kill shot(s) makes no sense to me at all.
      And if there was really a communications breakdown, that was just part of the set-up too.
      The heroic Secret Service agents who hurried to shield Trump were out of the loop and played for pawns.
      Must say that the female agent who had trouble holstering her pistol appeared to be a D.E.I hire to me. I'll give her a break for showing courage for putting herself in the line of fire. Perhaps she had merely become unnerved.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    Someone posted that ORDERS CAME FROM UP HIGH not to refer to it as an Assassination. And to downplay the shots fired.

    The Left-Wing media simply played along with glee.

    And he only won, if we can keep the images in peoples minds...

    Hence Google and FB finding memory holes for them!
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    • Posted by tutor-turtle 4 months, 2 weeks ago
      I counted.
      I Watched the sequence twenty times.
      Thirteen shots.
      Not nine. Thirteen.
      I Am Positive.
      Four shots are unaccounted for.
      Some of the shots came in such rapid succession, they could have not possibly come from one firearm.
      In the counter-snipers own words "I took Crooks out with one round"
      Eight shells were found on the roof.
      Eight from Crooks, one from our guy, four unaccounted.
      The math doesn't lie.
      There was (at least) one other shooter.
      The efFing Bungling Idiots are doing a real bang-up job on this one.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    Strange that people can observe something and see it completely differently than it really is. I think it's their mindset. 'Don't confuse me with facts. My mind's made up'. I pity these people. nb
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 months, 2 weeks ago
      Well, this can get into a pretty deep Rabbit Hole.

      Scientists put it to a test. Using Simulations.
      It turns out, we are OPTIMIZED to NOT see reality.
      We are geared towards pleasure (eating, sex) disproportionately.
      Not towards seeing "truth".

      While doing simulations. ONLY when the "people" get rewards for eating and procreation,
      do we get societies that survive.

      Otherwise, the "people" literally starve to death. Or, they hoard food, and don't recreate.

      It was a shocking discovery. The more the "people" saw reality, the quicker it destroyed them. (in the simulations that means, the less likely they were to secure resources and recreate).

      A fish may never know what water is. But it still functions.
      For humans, there are very similar things going on.

      People learn to protect themselves with Layers of Abstraction.
      In Fast-Brain/Slow-Brain concepts. These are Heuristics or shortcuts...
      If you are ALONE, UNARMED, and 6 strange looking beings come your way.
      You quickly need to know to run, hide, panic, etc. Those that don't, will either
      suffer extinction or make new friends. The RISK:REWARD ration on those two
      is so heavily skewed that 99.9% of the time. New Strange Creatures=Death.

      So, I forgive people their ignorance. They simply do not know.
      I also know that I likely believe things that can have alternate explanations...
      In fact, I could be wrong about a lot of assumptions. (Is gravity a constant?)

      Where I draw the line... Is when you are presented with the truth, and you
      REFUSE to accept it. But it may not be the truth, but it is CLEARLY closer to
      being accurate. (this is the "Trump is a Racist" problem. When you present
      them with information that proves otherwise. They take it is a ONE-TIME thing,
      or fabricated, etc. etc.) At that point, I am done with them. Their world view is
      broken.

      The telltale sign for me is simple. Are they following facts or feelings?
      (I believe Joe Biden misused his position of power and influence to enrich himself,
      and used Hunter and his brother to do this... And I saw him ADMIT to parts of this.
      That's a FACT based belief. "Trump is Evil" is a FEELING based belief.)
      I have no place for the latter.
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  • Posted by rhfinle 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    Tutor-Turtle is spot-on. It's either incompetence or collusion. My guess is someone gave the order to lighten up security until (unspecified) someone else could get through. Then just wait a while for a loonie to show up. A lot of people wanted Trump dead, but a lot of them had to wait until the punk kid tried. Then they could 'neutralize' him - and say that they "did their job".
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    The Left will say and do anything in the hope of getting others to believe it and support their "cause."

    Here is a quote that is often attributed to Joseph Goebbels, “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

    This and another from Adolf Hitler, "Never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it."

    Between these two people it seems that the Left have found who they want to model themselves after and perfectly sum up what the Left has been doing for years.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    Because they don’t have anything else! They are scared to death.

    However, I hate to tell you, but he didn’t “just win.” It’s far too early in the process for something like this to have the effect you claim. If this had happened in October, the result would be far more certain.

    For me, I’m just worried sick that they will try again…..and succeed. The stakes are too high for them to just say “Oh well, we missed, back to dinner now.”
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    • Posted by $ splumb 4 months, 2 weeks ago
      Even if they don't succeed in assassination, they can always fall back on cheating.
      It worked in 2020, I can't see why it wouldn't work again.
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      • Posted by $ gharkness 4 months, 2 weeks ago
        Oh I think they will try it and they are likely to succeed.

        I don’t know about the civil war thing. Not that I think it can’t happen - I just can’t picture what that will look like and what will actually happen between the assassination (UGH) and Election Day. Surely Dems don’t think that we will just accept that our candidate is gone so we’ll just take theirs?
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    The "former" head of the Secret Service basically confirmed that NOBODY, in the service, accepts responsibility...including her.

    They'll have a long road to travel to regain the trust of the American people, much like the FBI.
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    • Posted by $ rainman0720 4 months, 2 weeks ago
      That assumes that they care whether or not they have the trust of the American people. Personally, since they can pretty much do with impunity whatever the hell they want, I doubt they care.
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      • Posted by $ splumb 4 months, 2 weeks ago
        RIght again.
        They don't care. they know they got away with murder with Ruby Ridge, Waco, and LaVoy Finicum, so they know they can do whatever they please.
        You're knockin' it out of the park today, Rainman.
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  • Posted by $ 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    Gas lighting. That's why, I guess. One must completely disrespect somebody to gas light them. And, that explains it all, I guess. "He wasn't shot. The teleprompter blew up and he used fake blood." And...sadly...half of America is stupid enough to play a role in such a lie....all-in....
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  • Posted by mikeofallon 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    So have they found the shattered or broken teleprompter yet?? Ya - wouldn't want to "rush to judgement". It'll take months apparently to find out WHO is responsible for declaring the rooftop being outside the perimeter?? And WHY are glaring oversights not able to be called out?? WHO was responsible for comms? No one? Basic issues were answerable BEFORE the event, so why not now?
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