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Hurricane Odile and Inventions

Posted by dbhalling 10 years, 2 months ago to Technology
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I have had the fortune or misfortune to be dealing with the aftermath of Hurricane Odile http://www.weather.com/news/weather-hurr.... I have a client that has an invention that would have been able to restore power in just two days. His invention is described in patent number 7589640 http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7589640.... It senses the force load on a power pole and if it exceeds a certain level, the invention lowers the cross bars and power lines gently to the ground and turns off the sector switch (power). Once the electrical lines and cross bars are on the ground, the wind loads are almost eliminated, which means the power pole is standing at the end of the storm. Utility workers then remove the debris and use a winch type mechanism to raise the power lines and cross bars.
This invention cannot only save billions of dollars in utility repair damage per year, get power up in a tenth the time of present techniques, eliminate billions in lost business per year, it also reduces the risk of injury to utility workers who are no longer required to climb utility poles and bystanders. But that is not all, the inventor has engineered his poles so that they are less expensive to install originally than present utility poles.
GUESS WHO is opposing the inventor? Unions. Their members make a lot of money working storms and they don’t want any system that allows less skilled workers to setup utility poles. Utility companies are ambivalent, because they are regulated and only allowed a certain return on capital. Thus, all the money they save using the inventor’s system will not improve their bottom line one iota. This is just another example of how a regulation stifles inventions and makes our lives worse, more expensive and less safe.
SOURCE URL: http://www.griddefender.com/


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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 2 months ago
    Thank you for posting this. Prime example of government interference that affects everyone negatively whether they realize it or not.
    Stay safe and I hope you have power again soon.
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    • Posted by 10 years, 2 months ago
      K was freaking this morning, no internet, no power and a really hot night with mesquites. But the internet came back on, so now all we need is ice, and electricity and the beer truck to come by, and,
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  • Posted by woodlema 10 years, 2 months ago
    Sounds like the Union Boss in Atlas Shrugged telling Dagny that the UNION will not let the men drive the train on the "untested rails". Oh so many parallels. WSJ article, "Atlas Shrugged" Fiction to Fact in 53 years.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years, 2 months ago
    I had a similar experience here in Oklahoma. One of the utility companies' biggest expense is replacing lines brought down by ice storms, and I proposed spraying the lines with an environmentally clean aerospace lubricant once a year to prevent ice buildup. After an initial enthusiastic response, I was abruptly "uninvited" to further discussion. Months later, one of the state engineers told me that an influential state politician's brother owned one of the companies that was contracted to replace the downed power lines every year, and my idea would have shut down his company.
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    • Posted by Timelord 10 years, 2 months ago
      Were I the CEO of that utility I would quietly file that brilliant idea away and when the time came to bid out that contract again I'd make sure that politically connected service company didn't win the bid.

      Or alternately call up politician's brother's company and amend the contract such that they perform the lubricant application every year. It would provide much steadier work than line repair.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 2 months ago
    Sounds like a great invention.If they could just use it in one community to prove how effective it is I think people would demand it. Makes me wonder how many other inventions are sitting idle???
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  • Posted by jimslag 10 years, 2 months ago
    Hi, I work for one of the utilities and yes I am stuck in a union because I am NOT in a Right To Work State (New Mexico). SO I had to join a union to get the job. Anyway, I thought it was a cool idea and I forwarded the link to my supervisor and my engineer to see what they think. Will let you know if I get any feedback from them.
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  • Posted by jimslag 10 years, 2 months ago
    As for buried lines, my utility also serves Santa Fe (yes, the People's Republic of Santa Fe), that liberal bastion. Anyway, they made us bury all the power lines within the city limits. They needed to train a few people, who are all stationed in Santa Fe, to service those lines and vaults. Lots of problems, especially if you live in areas with a high water table. Not likely, out in the desert SW, but if you live anywhere east of the Mississippi River, it could be an issue.
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  • Posted by xthinker88 10 years, 2 months ago
    In Philadelphia, the Comcast Center was a huge LEED certified construction project. In order to be more "green" it was designed with flushless urinals. The unions protested because of all the pipe that would not have to be installed. Licenses & Inspections listened to the union line and required the builder to install miles of plumbing to the bathrooms that would not be used with the urinals but would be there "just in case" the flushless urinal idea ended up in the toilet. So much for "green". Funny to see two liberal causes clash in such an obvious way.
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  • Posted by Timelord 10 years, 2 months ago
    That's a cool invention. I live in New England where most of the power lines are on poles. One issue to work through regarding the invention is that on our winding country roads, where the majority of the lines come down in a storm, the power lines cross the road very often. If the lines were auto-lowered they'd be laying across the road. That's a problem even if they're de-energized.

    Nevertheless, this invention could still be used where appropriate and provide the benefits as described.
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  • Posted by xthinker88 10 years, 2 months ago
    There was already an amazing idea for protecting power lines from storms, it's called burying them.
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    • Posted by 10 years, 2 months ago
      Actually that is much more expensive and has a number of loss problems. And if you have ever lived with buried lines that start having problems, you know much more expensive to fix.
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      • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 2 months ago
        I have wondered about this with reference to home construction too: we make it very difficult to access the mechanisms of our modern life. It would seem to me that a ground level conduit, perhaps concrete, would be the sensible way to build utilities transmission routes across cities. It could contain waste, water, electricity, fibre, gas, whatever was needed at the time. And it should be either big enough to walk in or have removable panels so that people who needed to work on one of the utilities could reach their line or pipe.

        While I am on a roll here: It used to be the custom for suburban homes to have septic tanks. Septic tanks are a pain, but at least you are not transporting sewage tens of miles to be processed. My current home has a high-tech sewage treatment system...which the State of CA rates as 'output can go into the Pacific Ocean'. So, the output is essentially 'clean' (though not potable). One could potentially re-use this output for agricultural purposes. Since we have this technology, why do we still build around the concept of sewer lines?

        If I build a home from scratch, it will have a large 'channel' on the inner walls, at a convenient height. In this channel will run my electrical, gas, water, and com lines. The channel will be covered with a piece of wood trim that is part of a wainscoting or chair rail. When I need to do a repair, I will just yank off a section of the wainscoting and I will be able to do the repairs. I will be able to do the repairs, standing up, in a temperature controlled environment, with plenty of light and no spiders.

        It seems obvious to me that one should not build utilities on any scale such that you have to tear up a street or a concrete pad or a wall in order to repair them (and spend most of your time tearing and rebuilding too).

        Jan
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        • Posted by Timelord 10 years, 2 months ago
          "... one should not build utilities on any scale such that you have to tear up a street or a concrete pad or a wall in order to repair them"

          I consider it a black mark on the reputation of my fellow engineers that they don't seem to design things with repairs in mind. Sometimes the cost to build a system with easy access for repairs is just too high compared with the anticipated frequency of malfunction.

          But other times is just seems like sloppy work.

          Take a situation that many of us encounter - a very simple maintenance item on your car, like an oil change, air filter change or cabin air filter change. I had a 2000 Buick Regal that I loved, but I never once replaced the air filter without bloody fingers and prodigious amounts of cursing. Sometimes the neighbors gathered 'round just to witness the event. My current Mazda 6 has a large plastic shield that covers the entire bottom of the engine. The oil filter is inaccessible without removing it. It's easy to remove if the car's on a lift but nearly impossible otherwise.

          Enough off-topic ranting...
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          • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 2 months ago
            No. Not quite enough. I used to do the maintenance on my old 67 VW notchback myself*. I never did the valve settings without bloody knuckles...and have you tried to change the sparkplugs on a VW with a pancake engine?! It is a job for Heinlein's 'six armed monkey' repairman.

            Whine! Whine!

            Jan
            *Yes, I still have that car - though Betsy is not running right now.
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        • Posted by slfisher 10 years, 2 months ago
          Septic's great -- my previous house had one -- but it doesn't scale that well and not all soils can support it.
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          • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 2 months ago
            My house had to have the 'high-tech sewage treatment system' instead of a regular septic tank because the soil permeability test was too high. My high tech septic system has algae growing in it and turns out water that is virtually pure.

            The reason for my bringing this up in a prior post, slfisher, is that we have gotten to a point where most suburban homes with most soil conditions could actually support local treatment of sewage and recycling of water for agricultural purposes (eg watering your lawn or orchard). While you (as an individual who is presumably not in the construction industry) have no particular reason to know about such high-tech sewage treatment systems, an architect or a builder or a city planner should know about these - but they continue to build Better Homes and Gardens style houses.

            The topic on this thread is 'we do not have to wait for the future we can do better with what we already have'. My contributions have been some ways that I see as being better...but which lie well within our current model of technology.

            Jan
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            • Posted by slfisher 10 years, 2 months ago
              I'm not quite a city planner, but I am trained in some aspects of it and I have some familiarity with such things.
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              • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 2 months ago
                You are way ahead of me there: So what is the main thing you would do to improve 'the way we do things' using our current tech?

                Jan
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                • Posted by slfisher 10 years, 2 months ago
                  the way we do what things?

                  The biggest change I'd like to make is to make it easier for people to generate their own power; the power companies often limit it or put arduous charges on it using specious reasoning.
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                  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 2 months ago
                    I am going for what I consider a 'robust' house. Since I live in SoCal, I am going to put solar on my roof - which will provide me with power for most of the year. We have a few times during the year when there are clouds for a couple of weeks at a time - and solar is not much good during those periods. If 'something bad happens during those cloudy weeks, I am SOL. (I do not intend for my house to be off grid, just guarded against calamity.) The level of generator system I can afford would only provide power for a few hours...

                    I know that jbrenner has an enviable power pallet design (again, beyond my budget). Do you have any suggestions?

                    Jan
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        • Posted by Timelord 10 years, 2 months ago
          Jan, you and I seem to be on a very similar wavelength on many topics!

          "If I build a home from scratch, it will have a large 'channel' on the inner walls..." Yes, I have had the very same idea in mind for years. " do the repairs, standing up, in a temperature controlled environment, with plenty of light and no spiders." No spiders! I loathe spiders even though I know that without them the planet would be 10' deep in insects. In my current home I keep the unfinished-but-otherwise-modern basement free of them with minimal effort, but my previous house was built in 1900 with a fieldstone foundation and dirt floor. I was physically unable to go down there. I broke out in a cold sweat if I even stood in the open doorway for more than 20 seconds. If I blew a fuse I had an understanding neighbor who would replace it for me!

          Regarding buried utilities, electric, twisted-pair copper, co-ax cable and fiber optic cable are *usually* accessible without digging up the street. If troubles pop up that proved to be located between the street and a home it usually just requires digging a shallow trench if there's a reason to have to expose the conduit.

          When I repave my driveway in a few years I'll have the contractor install the necessary conduit(s) to run my utilities underground from the pole.
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        • Posted by 10 years, 2 months ago
          I think that makes a lot of sense. But I do not believe you can easily bury the long distance high voltage lines. Partly because of the cost but just as importantly there are losses due to the non-isotropic nature of the soil that result in electrical changes that result in losses and other problems.
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          • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 2 months ago
            I was thinking more of a berm with a hollow concrete tunnel in it - mostly above ground. (This would be similar to many of the sections of Roman aqueduct - man high tunnels that had channels that contained water in the bottom.) The cables would not have dirt piled around them, but would run down the tunnel (in a secondary conduit or free). The tunnel can also contain water lines, phone lines, gas lines, etc. On the outside, the tunnel should be amply banked - enough so that if a car hit it the car would go 'over' instead of 'into' and so that in rural areas a farmer could drive his tractor over the top (if it ran through his fields). This would take much more money to construct, but would provide a safe access and work environment for technicians to repair problems and should result in a lot fewer problems (ice storm breakages) over time. I have no idea what the ROI would be - less time in the northern ice areas or in southern hurricane areas, I would think.

            Oh yeah: in cities, the berm would be planted and would provide longitudinal parks crisscrossing the city.
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      • Posted by xthinker88 10 years, 2 months ago
        But if you live through the winters of the northeast you tend to look in envy at some of the neighborhoods where they have buried lines and aren't losing power every other week.
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        • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 2 months ago
          When we took our loot from selling our CA home and moved to NC, we were leaving earthquakes behind (for the most part) but the apprehension of ice storms and hurricanes led me to purchase a WAY-overkill home generator system despite the underground power here.

          It has provided literally an two or three hours of backup power when the mains failed... over the past nine years we've been here.

          Of course, back in Cupertino, Silly-con Valley, a utility crew once drilled through one of the few main power feeds for the entire city of Cupertino, taking out a good portion of the city's power supply for several days... Nothing is fool-proof because there are VERY resourceful fools all around...

          :)
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