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In Memoriam,, 2023, by Robert Gore

Posted by straightlinelogic 1 year, 7 months ago to Government
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On Memorial Day, America remembers and honors those who died while serving in the military. It is altogether fitting and proper to ask: for what did they die? Do the rationales offered by the military and government officials who decide when and how the US will go to war, and embraced by the public, particularly those who lose loved ones, stand up to scrutiny and analysis? Some will recoil, claiming it inappropriate on a day devoted to honoring the dead. However, it is because war is a matter of life and death, for members of the military and inevitably civilians, that its putative justifications be subject to the strictest tests of truth and the most probing of analyses.

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  • Posted by $ kddr22 1 year, 7 months ago
    my favorite part...
    "Those who have fought and died to defend America and its freedoms are noble beyond measure. Those who pay self-serving tribute to their valor, but make war and expend lives as means to corrupt ends are evil beyond redemption. Honor the former; expose and oppose the latter."

    Very well said
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    • Posted by term2 1 year, 7 months ago
      I get it if you are defending your own freedom. But the wars the USA seems to fight are foreign wars for nefarious ends for the most part. If some foreign soldier comes up my street wanting to kill me or infringe on me, they better look out.

      But, if a Chinese soldier invades ukraine or taiwan, I say that's THEIR problem. I am already slowing down trade with communist countries and will stop it completely as soon as I can. I am not going to help communism expand, but taiwan and ukraine need to protect themselves.
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  • Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 1 year, 7 months ago
    I find the same cognitive dissonance between people who lost loved ones to “justified” war as people who lost loved ones to “Safe and Effective” emergency authorized gene therapies.
    No matter how you explain to them the actual cause, YOU will always be the criminal for even suggesting that it doesn’t fit the desired narrative.

    And the War Drums beat on.....
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 1 year, 7 months ago
    Hey shitheads! Don't tell me my guy died in vain. When I asked him what he was doing in Viet Nam, his answer was, 'Fighting aggression in Southeast Asia!. I lost my brother in law (a Major in the Army who flew Mohawks) and my husband got sprayed with Agent Orange! N
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 year, 7 months ago
      Yes, this is truly a tight rope to walk.

      We need a military that is strong, fierce and feared. Thank you for your sacrifices.

      The fact that there is corruption, was corruption, and ALWAYS WILL BE corruption. Does not, and SHOULD NEVER be directed towards those who have sacrificed. Whether they were drafted, volunteered, or indirectly impacted...

      Everyone is a precious loss I wish we did not incur.

      I apologize, on behalf of the corrupt for adding to that burden, and wish ONLY TO SHAME THEM, not you, yours, or those brave men/women that served.

      This is why we need a President Trump back... And to stop the wars.
      And to change our position about how easily we put our children's lives on the line.
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    • Posted by term2 1 year, 7 months ago
      It is what it is. I sure don't understand what we got out of vietnam war, or Afghanistan war for that matter. There are arguments for WW2 that are hard to refute.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 1 year, 6 months ago
    My father served in the Merchant Marines on Liberty and Victory ships during WW2. He had seen ships in convoy sunk by German U-Boats.
    Every Memorial Day I post on FB a short memorial statement with photos or artwork regarding the Merchant Mariners who served on US Liberty Ships during WW2 supplying our and allied soldiers fighting against the Nazi tyranny and who lost their lives when German U-Boats sank their ships.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 year, 7 months ago
    The definition of a Just War, to me...
    Is one in which I would gladly sacrifice MY LIFE, or MY CHILDREN to obtain the outcome.

    Currently the only Just War I can see... Is the destruction/abolition of the Deep State.
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  • Posted by jimslag 1 year, 7 months ago
    These so-called wars have consequences. Yes we went into Iraq and took out Saddam Hussein but he was effectively a harmless token of himself after we kicked him out of Kuwait. However by killing him and during the war, we effectively allowed the rise of ISIS and other groups into Iraq that he would has squelched long before they became a problem. I am retired military and was in for Desert Storm but retired before 2001. I was for the war because of the media hype but looking back I know that the reasoning was flawed and the intelligence was bad. So, instead we took Hussein out and had a quagmire for over a decade with many unnecessary deaths of young soldiers, marines and airmen. Same in Afghanistan, the Taliban was quote 'hiding Bin Laden' so we had to take them out. Yes they were repressive of their people but what did we do? We took out the Taliban and put in an ineffective so-called warlord who was corrupt and got into another quagmire for 2 decades. More US military dead that did need to be. We also found out that it was not the Taliban but our so-called ally Pakistan that was hiding Bin Laden. Great intelligence again. Hindsight is 20/20 sometimes but we get caught up in the moment because of flawed intelligence and send in the troops when maybe diplomacy would have worked. US Dollars work wonders overseas, I was in the Navy and on an aircraft carrier, when we pulled in the local businesses loved us because we dropped millions on the local economy. Not just what the sailors spent but we stocked the ship with food, supplies and maybe fuel, paid for tours for the crew, paid for boats to move people to shore as the carrier had to anchor out due to lack of pier space for it. Lots of money went into local coffers. We had some problems but most went okay and we waved the flag as 5 acres or so of sovereign US territory sitting off the coast of the local port. Do I regret what I did in the military? No, not really. Do I regret the deaths that happened? Yes, they were unnecessary but it did happen and we have to live with the consequences.
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    • Posted by term2 1 year, 7 months ago
      all governments are inherently evil, with some of them going way beyond that (like communist, dictatorships, nazi, etc). As far as I am concerned, I wouldn't fight on behalf of our government either, as it isn't trustworthy to say the least.
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