My impressions of Atlas Shrugged 3
Posted by LionelHutz 10 years, 3 months ago to Movies
Just got back from watching the movie. I'm not going to get into great detail here, to avoid spoiling the movie for those who haven't seen it yet. I'll just say this: the first 20 minutes of the film are pretty bad and if you sit down in the theater thinking this is like watching the Titanic sink, just hang on until Dagny starts planning out how a rail line could be run in the Gulch. The movie starts to run much better from this point out. Other than that, obviously the directors and producers had to decide what was going to get carried over from the book and what was going to get left out...and I think they made some strange choices. In particular, how they handled Cherryl. The John Galt speech: well done. But my surprise: Hugh Akston's conversation with Dagny in the Gulch. I think that scene is the best in the movie.
Indeed, a remake of the Fountainhead would be nice. To get rid of Gary cooper's wooden performance. And to show that someone like Patricia Neal should have played the Dagney role.
Harry M
Ayn wrote philosophically (non-concrete-bound) so the principles are the same ... the content of the sets and props change.
For instance: We used to watch TV on a small screen situated in a gigantic box with vacuum tubes and transistors. NOW we watch TV on our cell phones because of digital technology.
TV is still TV.
I hate to say anything negative about the movie because I really want it to succeed and I really was hoping more people would be exposed to Atlas Shrugged as a result of seeing the movie, but... I'm sorry to say I was severely disappointed with the acting and direction in the first 10-20 minutes. Overall I'd have to rate the movie a B or a C. The acting in the first 20 minutes quickly killed my enthusiasm for the movie. All that enthusiasm turned to dread about how bad the following scenes would be. It was less than I'd expect from a high school play or a soap opera.
It did pick up later on with a few bright spots.
The scene with Akston and Dagney turned out to be the best part of the movie. PLEASE post that to YouTube. If the people of America see nothing else but that one scene they'll get the entire point of Atlas Shrugged.
James Taggert was brilliantly acted. I really, really enjoyed watching his parts. Brilliant!
Francisco was too old to be Dagney's old childhood boyfriend and there was zero chemistry between them. Not already knowing the storyline from the book, I would have thought he was an older family friend. Casting completely missed the mark on that one.
I, too, failed to see the horror of Project F. What a joke.
Too many important parts of the story were left out or glossed over. Another 30 minutes of film could have made this a much more powerful movie storyline.
I'm glad it was made, but I'm greatly disappointed with the result. Now, I'm looking forward to a remake of it.
Again, though, PLEASE post the Akston/Dagney scene to YouTube. If the people of America see nothing else but that one scene they'll get the entire point of Atlas Shrugged.
I personally have introduced over a dozen people to AR just through the movies.
I give the producers an A for effort especially with the limited budget. But again disappointed with the casting, acting and direction. One key scene that I was especially unhappy with was they way "Get the hell out of my way" was handled.
But I am very happy to see that the trilogy got finished and released. As someone has already said this third part will not be considered any kind of 'great cinema' in the future, But the message is out there now.
I also thought that this was a great Jim Taggert -- and Gerald Starnes was good too. Ned Vaughn was so energetic in that small role that I wish he had had a bigger part in the movie. He looks the age and could conceivably have been a good Ragnar.
Speech was good.
Posted by kalkalmanek 9 minutes ago
I saw the AS 3 yesterday at 11:30 AM. I was hoping that it would have shown the machine that blow up things from a distance and how the Taggert Bridge was blown up but that was the only disappointment. It is a very short movie but it shows somewhat what the liberal & bureaocrates have done to the once great country. We can take it back now since most democrates have finally seen what damage they.have done to this country by giving a man a fish instead of teaching a man to fish. "Run Ben run
HOWEVER, I did find that this movie explained the concepts better and illustrated the conflict better. But it was done through narration (which is primarily what the book does too) and not through any action or character portrayals.
Atlas Shrugged is a difficult concept to explain other than through narration. And narration does not translate to the big screen very well.
I agree that some of the choices were quite odd and sometimes irrelevant to the real conflict and drama. Dagney and John's tryst in the train yard was important in the context of the book, but so much of that was edited out of the movie as to render it irrelevant in the development of the story told on the screen.
We all thought part 3 was superb. The chemistry between Galt/Dagny was palpable. All the important points were included, Rand's many monologues masterfully condensed to state the essential philosophical principles in the clearest form for today's audiences in today's vernacular, reaching its peak in the Akston/Dagny dialogue to build up to Galt's speech. Bravo on reducing the book's inexorable dissertation to the few minutes of a powerful colloquial summary.
Yes, the book's fans will all have their own gripes about what had to be omitted and severely abbreviated. It could be argued, for example, that after an earlier foreshadowing comment about it, the destruction of the Mississippi bridge should have been more dramatic and active than just showing a still shot of it broken. I, for one, was willing to accept that, as well as the several other newsreel-style shots that I consider to have been brilliantly selected to illustrate the narrative in shorthand form. The editing was excellent, interweaving black and white shots and captions with the live action.
The sex scene was exquisitely done, and I had no problem with substituting a table for the book's piles of sandbags.
The decision to have John strapped crucifixion-style to a fence rather than lying on a table should get the most controversy, but I can understand the symbolism chosen by the filmmakers to connect to the culturally embedded image of the savior of the world.
A thousand other details can be argued even for why Rand structured her plot and specific scenes as she did, but that is just static when discussing a work of art. That the three films now exist and have entered the world's cultural lore is a magnificent achievement. On the battlefield of ideas, they are the visible representatives of Reason, Freedom, Individualism and, in essence, the building blocks of a civilized society and the bulwark against the notion that looting and mooching are the ideal forms of social justice.
One can only hope and encourage the eventual production of a series with a consistent cast and more detailed inclusion of all the material in the book. In the meanwhile, people can read the book or listen to its audio version. They will then gain an even greater appeciation of the skill and love that produced these three films.
In my view, these three parts by Kaslow and Aglialoro stand as historical landmarks of courage, passion, intelligence and a celebration of Rand's unique contribution to human art and intellectual evolution. As for being propaganda, damn right. The world is perishing from deadly ideas, and this is the antidote.
We have all received far more value from this work than the cost of a movie ticket and eventual purchase of the DVD and our Kickstarter pittance. Denigrating their work on petty details is unworthy, especially from individuals who are not capable of doing it better.
That the closing scene shows the Statue of Liberty where the lights do NOT go out is poignant and moving, no dry eyes here. My personal thanks to all involved in these productions. Well done!
I agree that the first 15-20 minutes were a little tough to sit through. I also agree that the Galt speech was well done. I thought they did a really nice job condensing a 3 hour speech into 3 or 4 minutes.
And I also agree that Hugh Akston's conversation with Dagny was the best scene in the movie. In that 2 minute scene, the entire conflict between the producers and the moochers & looters was explained very well.
And although I like Joaquim de Almeida, his casting as Francisco d'Anconia just didn't work. On the flip side, Larry Cedar was well cast as Dr. Ferris (almost as good as Rebecca Wisocky as Lillian Rearden)
I'll follow Lionel's lead and not get into much detail to avoid any spoilers for anyone who hasn't see the movie yet.
But in considering what had to be done in order to bring this literary masterpiece to the big screen, ASP3 suffered (if "suffered" is the right word) from the same malady that afflicted ASP1 and ASP2: far too much story to tell in far too little screen time.
When I look at the trilogy, I think that everyone involved did about as well as they could have done, knowing that they would have to condense 60 hours of an audio book into maybe 5 hours of movie.
But because so much either had to be left out or had to be severely condensed, there were things that just wouldn't make much sense if one was seeing any of the three parts without having read the book.
I do have one question: Why was there a license plate on Galt's vehicle? I'm assuming he never drove it out of the valley, and I'm also assuming he flew his plane back and forth between Colorado and New York. Since the vehicle never strayed onto public roads, why the need for a license plate?
REALLY ? You brought Ragnar in the movie....for THAT ?
Reardon - too old.
Dagny - too young.
The destruction of the Taggart bridge was too important to have sluffed over like that. The death of Jim's wife ? a fish out of water - ZERO perspective. Project F was laughable. There should have been more leading up to "the end". How could you NOT show when Reardon was finally convinced to join ? I LIKED AS1&2 - this was not even in the same category. After waiting 2 1/2 years, I'm glad it was done, but I wish it had been done better.
chance to see it -- because it will be worth the $$.
in severe contrast with the rest of the movies out there.
thanks for your impressions, and I bet that you'll
like it more the second time through. -- j
Also they got too into the politics. They kept throwing it in our faces. Instead of telling a story I was subjected to a bunch of political crap every scene - from the mother talking about homeschooling, the banker talking about loans, etc. It was too preachy. As always, I am disappointed yet again by this production company but they're the only one out there actually making conservative films. It's unfortunate there isn't enough competition in this space to make something good.