A Billion Greenies for the Everreen State

Posted by katrinam41 2 years, 7 months ago to Economics
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Governor Jay I sleep and his green buddies are finally putting the last touches to the destruction of what was once a paradise to live in. His own version of the new green deal will have no vehicle allowed in the state after 2030 unless it is electric. These people are so proud of their fiasco. The ramifications of this new law will break the state financially, but the saddest part of all is that at least the citizens living in the western half of Washington want it that way. I lived in the Seattle/Hoodsport/Bainbridge Island area for years, 12 of those years as a liveaboard sailor. I fought teachers and school boards with the same result as removing a teaspoon of water to empty the ocean. The few of us who bucked that liberal trend were outnumbered and overwhelmed with a sea of non-sentient goo, kind of like Cheryl Taggart. We just couldn't get anyone to listen.
Now the new law will be throwing lots and lots of money at the perceived problem. You get one guess where that money is coming from.
SOURCE URL: https://www.theblaze.com/news/washington-enacts-target-to-ban-non-electric-cars-by-2030


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  • Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 2 years, 7 months ago
    Aside from the nautical discussion which I’ll continue later:
    I can’t wait to watch the leftists try to implement this in the reality of inner city Seattle and Compton California.
    Everybody driving Teslas LOL! And the power is constantly getting shut off anyway because the bill isn’t paid.
    I actually admire some Leftist goals. But the systems they implement to achieve those goals are atrocious and not based on reality.
    I’m sure things will go MOSTLY smoothly. Just like Detroit and every other crime ridden Socialist Utopia.
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  • Posted by $ Commander 2 years, 7 months ago
    These idiots are going to piss off the rural folk to the point of destroying the roads and bridges that are the inland lifeline. Such is life.
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    • Posted by 2 years, 7 months ago
      Oh I certainly hope so! It used to be such a wonderful place to live.
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      • Posted by $ Commander 2 years, 7 months ago
        I was In Seattle in 97. Not too bad then, yet the signs were showing.
        Downtown was already full of transients/beggars/homeless, trash everywhere except the tourist spots. WL Center and Space Needle were patrolled by police fairly regularly.

        I thought: Give me Stevens Pass or the sound and islands. I see you chose one of those. Well done. I've not lived aboard for any length, yet have captained many a vessel off-shore and on the Great Lakes, non-professional. Open ocean, open wild lands and 40 below keep the riff-raff away.

        Toast to the sailors and mountain folk. Preparedness definition.
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        • Posted by 2 years, 7 months ago
          We left Bainbridge Island in 2001, settled in Sequim for 3 years then to Hoodsport. We hated going to Seattle for any reason by that time, and moved to Ohio in 2008 to be near family, but I will miss the liveaboard life as long as I live.
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          • Posted by $ Commander 2 years, 7 months ago
            Within my little consortium we are preparing to do a lot of separation from the conveniences of the 20th century.
            Sailing was one of the great teachers for me. I'm still a stones throw from Lake Michigan. If I need to go fishing in inclement weather I have a friend with a Columbia 26. No Coasties to worry about and no worries on sinking either. Great way to run rum too.
            Purpose -full infrastructure, land and sea, away from large population. Not so many conveniences, yet many hands make light work and bond us to one another in a mortal based value structure. When we need each other we don't feed on each other.
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            • Posted by 2 years, 7 months ago
              It sounds like a great Gulch. We're about 5 miles from Lake Erie and I think that growing up on a boat helped to give my kids an understanding of responsibility and duty, while building their self-confidence and abilities. I miss liveaboard life, and believe that's one reason I really love traveling in an rv. Footloose some would call it, but a safe, enjoyable trip takes planning and work, just like a good sail. This year, my hubby and I will finally be healthy enough to get a few trips in.
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              • Posted by $ Commander 2 years, 7 months ago
                If you head west, swing north from (go way around) Chicago and 3 hours north. Hospitality abounds!
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                • Posted by 2 years, 7 months ago
                  Do I have to enter Illinois? I have no desire to conceal carry or any carry in that liberal hellhole.
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                  • Posted by $ Commander 2 years, 7 months ago
                    Scenic route through Michigan. Ludington ferry comes into my back yard, or go north across Mackinac bridge and south through the UP....very long drive.
                    Rural Illinois is like any other reasonable land. I use I39 to get around Chicago.

                    And then again, getting too rural could be like sailing off the east African coast or Malaysia if the big cities are stressed. If I take a 60 mile radius from home I hear the talk of how folks will repel inner city foragers if food and supplies run out.
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                    • Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 2 years, 7 months ago
                      I’m in Michigan....and yes you’re correct. North of the knuckles will not take kindly to South of the Knuckles taking our resources. We barely tolerate them now for the tourist dollars.
                      I used to be tiller man and front deck ape on a boat out of Muskegon. Been knocked over the side by a Genny and a Spinnaker a time or two.
                      Also been screaming “Starboard” at the top of my lungs while hanging onto the forestay as the sickening crunch of fiberglass happened. Good times!
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                      • Posted by 2 years, 7 months ago
                        I have done a few turns as deck ape on a 41' Block Island cutter in Puget Sound and I know what you mean! My own boat was a Coranado 30' that went all over the Soundand even a ways out in the Straits of Juan de Fuca. Not too far, though, because that 7' party deck wouldn't be safe in any really heavy seas. :) Miss that life on the water so much!
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                      • Posted by $ Commander 2 years, 7 months ago
                        OY! A race veteran!
                        Best shout-out at the start I ever heard was from Capt Bill Lowrie; "Steel boat"
                        Just a random scream in the wind. Does not violate sportsmanship yet causes enough hesitation for the competitors....and scoot out on the line.

                        I prefer port start and lee-bow. "Take er UP! An S2 7.9 can really sail high with a 135. Not good on heavy water unless running reach or down.
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                        • Posted by 2 years, 7 months ago
                          Not races, although I have seen a few from my deck. 45 minutes of watching one beautiful boat try to recapture her spinnaker out in the straits was just amazing. Almost tipped my little 30 over with a high point when a williwah came off the island. No races, but lots of good times out there.
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                          • Posted by $ Commander 2 years, 7 months ago
                            You got my answer to Markus. Though, was the Block Island a wood or glass hull? Wood hull displaces a lot for the size and makes it equivalent to Pacific Seacraft in offshore safety performance. It's a "Greenie" thing. LOL
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                            • Posted by 2 years, 7 months ago
                              Wooden and so stable it was almost unreal. It belonged to my hubby's best friend and his wife, who was my best friend. Both mine and his passed away and the cutter guy and I have been married going on 23 years. The boat was documented and he loved it dearly
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  • Posted by Aeronca 2 years, 7 months ago
    I wouldn't worry too much, well maybe a little, but that goal for electric cars is still unattainable. It's political posturing at this point. There is no way possible to have the entire state using electric cars, and banning all travel from outside the state that is not electric, by 2030. Jay is Asleep.
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    • Posted by $ Commander 2 years, 7 months ago
      How big would the solar generators and battery back-ups need to be in western Washington?
      Have to get rid of that damn heat sink that creates all those clouds and rain. Get that mega-fleet of dozers in here for the next century....and cheap Chinese labor to run them. What would Dagny think?
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      • Posted by Aeronca 2 years, 7 months ago
        Dagny is a hero, but she would definitely fly away to the Gulch on that one.

        These short-sighted fearful scientists, they're all focused on the electrons. That's peanuts. That's child's play. The real energy is inside the nucleus. E=mc2 The solar science is screwing around with solar photons transferring energy through the valence electron shell of atoms.

        This is like trying to cook your steak with a match, when there's a roaring fire next to you.

        I'm hopeful because Bill Gates along with Uncle Sam are building a 4th generation molten salt nuclear reactor in Wyoming. It will take 7 years to go online. Finally a new reactor. Whether Bill is just hedging his investments or he is smart enough to know you don't put all your eggs in one basket, he's doing at least one good thing, and if it leads to 200 reactors running the USA, maybe we'll lessen his punishment for the virus-thing.
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        • Posted by $ Commander 2 years, 7 months ago
          How about this for conjecture. Elon Musk has a viable space vehicle program. He also sponsors a lot of tech competitions for automated vehicles. One of the vehicle programs is mining automation of regolith. Huge quantities of H3 can be found in the regolith on the moon. I did a quick calculation of the theoretical energy that may be contained in this material. One 40 ton load, mined and refined on the lunar surface, could power the US energy needs for 12 years if I'm close.

          I'll not speculate on the cost of establishing the infrastructure at present. We have the tech to do this right now. Establishing habitation on the moon is a small fraction of the cost to build. And then who "controls" this?
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          • Posted by 2 years, 7 months ago
            The USA already claimed the moon as a world area, so let the world pay for it. Any individual or non-woke corporation who tries to privatize that kind of mining/processing will get the shaft after the whole enterprise is up and ready. Looters are standing by in their slimy holes and under their mucky rocks, just waiting for an opportunity. Looters come in all sizes, and in this case, the UN comes to mind, claiming it, then parcelling out the various components to favored nations and conglomerates.
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  • Posted by Aeronca 2 years, 7 months ago
    In NYS Governor HOE-chul has signed a bill to outlaw gasoline powered landscaping equipment. To be enforced in 2027. Lawnmowers, hedgers, weed trimmers, etc...must all be electric. I'm keeping my beloved red lawn mower and waiting for the eco-police to show up. I will fight the process and see if I can find in documents which neighbor turned me in.
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