Putin puts his forces on Nuclear Alert

Posted by katrinam41 2 years, 8 months ago to Ask the Gulch
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So, has it come to this? Will we see and learn devastation in our time? Is Pitin such a madman that he would push the button? Would China be one of his targets or would China nuke both the USA and Russia? How close are we to the unthinkable?


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  • Posted by $ Abaco 2 years, 8 months ago
    I have been watching this with an Objectivist, minarchist eye. When I look at John Kerry and Biden...I see massive destruction in our near future. Putin is a guy that, IMO, they have failed to deal with. None of the world leaders at that level are good people, it seems. Still, you must interact with them. As nutty as it sounds I was somewhat impressed with Trump connecting with Rocket Boy. Bought us some time. War, in my humble opinion, is just a result of faulty leadership. There's all this talk of Putin taking Poland, or Finland, or...I don't believe it. I think it's a negotiating tactic. He wants Ukraine. Decided that force would be the best path.

    I want to mention one more thought. Our own leadership has mentioned that if anything looks hacked in the US they will consider it an act of war from Russia. FWIW, this is a very easy false-flag scenario. Let's see if it happens. It could be the start of the end...
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  • Posted by Dobrien 2 years, 8 months ago
    We are already there my dear. Our country and most of the western world leaders are treating patriots as terrorists ....let that sink in. I am more threatened by the FBLie or the DOJ or the C_A, all because I believe in America First than Putin nuking US.
    Katrina you seem to be trusting what the boob tube is telling you. Be afraid if you wish, but this comes from the same pigs who terrorized US with CovidBS.
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    • Posted by 2 years, 8 months ago
      I don't watch much tv and I get my news from a number of different sources. Afraid? The only thing I fear is that if the balloon goes up the elites who use those alphabet agencies will loose them on anyone who even remotely resembles a patriot. The stupidity and hubris that world leaders are showing tells me they are looking for any excuse to crack down. Dobrien, I trust no one, nothing, except my own mind. I was hoping the post would generate a lively discussion, and it just might. Thanks for input. I always value your insights. :)
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 2 years, 8 months ago
    One thing that we need to remember....Russia has an economy 1/3 the size of France.....Is anyone afraid of France? He does have nukes but if not for that he would be a joke. The size of his economy means that he cannot fight a conventional war for any length of time. Even as the Soviet Union their economy was incapable of keeping up with the west. Reagan knew this and that is why he did "Star Wars" Remember Iraq, they had the 4th largest military in the world at one time...but they couldn't get it anywhere so they were only a threat to their neighbors. I personally doubt Putin will press the button unless he is personally threatened, It is simply a ploy.
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    • Posted by TheRealBill 2 years, 8 months ago
      I was explaining how "little" Russia is in that context to my wife the other day. I told her something I've known and have been saying since the 1980s: if Russia didn't have nukes, nobody would really have paid it much attention as a "world power".

      Putin is no idiot, he knows this. Thus one of the reasons he pushed so hard on oil. Because absent oil all they have is nukes. The nukes make them something to at least contend with militarily, and oil gives them the economic leverage - so long as oil is restricted outside of Russia.

      Regardless of one's opinions on Trump and/or Biden, it is a fact that Trump's energy moves worked against Putin and Biden's all worked in his favor. The "SW" program and Reagan's military build up was expressly to bankrupt the USSR, though it carried costs to the US that we are still paying (literally and figuratively).

      But we could easily play the economic game today again by returning not just to energy independence (especially in terms of oil) but to becoming the primary exporter of oil. The lower we drive the price of oil, the more Russia has to work on other parts of their economy as they can't rely on oil. This, too was known in the 80s, so I'm not saying anything new.

      Next we could focus more effort on safe, small, and more affordable nuclear reactors and make them available to European countries at a small profit or even at break-even. This works better for us than the arms-cost race.

      It allows us to use those same reactors to improve reliability of our grid as well as flexibility (well, y'all's grids for you non-Texans ;) ), which can free up oil for other uses such as export, but also reduce oil dependence in Europe. As demand for oil slows down or even stops increasing, the increased supply will drive prices down, thus further weakening Russia's economic leverage over the EU and Germany - as well as the other states in the region. A small-to-medium output reactor could provide electric independence to several US states even.
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      • Posted by CaptainKirk 2 years, 8 months ago
        Yes, but don't forget China. Their 40 year plan was to bankrupt us with Useless druggies, homeless and corrupt politicians while stealing our technology.

        We are very much like Russia in the 1980s. We are bankrupted FINANCIALLY and MORALLY at this point.

        Russia/Putin are not are enemy. They are the enemy of the deep state and of China for that matter.
        For now Russia+China is better for both of them. Russia has the energy that China needs.

        The USA has the land to grow food that China needs. There will be NO NUCLEAR war. We are going for resources. If we get nuked, our wonderful land won't be good for feeding the Chinese. And frankly, once the nukes launch, it will NOT matter.

        Here's my suggestion. How about we STOP PROPPING UKRAINE UP. We fix OUR BORDERS and OUR problems back here. We stop expanding NATO. We stop putting missiles closer and closer to Russia.

        And we actually test out this theory that Putin is trying to rebuild the former USSR... Which he does not want to do. He knows the satellite states are corrupt and erode is his power.

        I have Russian friends on BOTH sides of this. I have Ukrainian friends. There are a LOT of viewpoints, and we are being ONLY TOLD ONE. That's NEVER good!
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    • Posted by Aurum79 2 years, 8 months ago
      1/3 the size of France? Considering it's vast territory, minerals and energy why don't they rule the cosmos?
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      • Posted by evlwhtguy 2 years, 8 months ago
        100 years of communism has taught the populace to have the following attitude ..."They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work"

        Look at Venezuela, largest proven oil rese4rves in the world and they are a 3rd world shithole.
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        • Posted by Aurum79 2 years, 8 months ago
          It's always the people. Silk purse/sow's ear.
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          • Posted by evlwhtguy 2 years, 8 months ago
            Also...glass half full and glass half empty....makes a big difference. A guy that sees it half full is happy and will look for more to fill it, the guy that sees it as half empty feels he was screwed somehow and spends all his time trying to figure out who took the other half.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 2 years, 8 months ago
    Go big or go home. Putin has no reason to worry. Nothing is going to happen. Our military has been demoralized and gutted by leftists, covid and mentally deficient freaks, what does Putin really have to fear? The bi-ministration is more worried about who openly gets to wears dresses than to worry about readiness.
    Anything to hide their pedophilia and adrenochrome supply fulfillment.
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  • Posted by TheRealBill 2 years, 8 months ago
    This is a red herring. It is a pleasant lie for the media to serve as fear escalation. And, predictably, when calmer minds point out the ignorance of thinking that even if true it means he is going to nuke anybody the media trots out "maybe he is old and has dementia" and such.
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  • Posted by bubah1mau 2 years, 8 months ago
    Larry Kudlow said it best: Trump would fight Putin with American-produced oil/gas while heaping praise on his nuclear-weaponized opponent, patting him on the back.

    Bonehead vilifies his nuclear-weaponized opponent while cornering him with sanctions/finger-wagging into arming, aiming his nuclear weapons.

    Bonehead starts the count-down to WWIII. Trump leaves his opponent the chance to see the futility and exorbitance of aggression, and leaves him a face-saving way to back down.

    Trump may not be a genius, but he has more sense than Bonehead.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 years, 8 months ago
    … and it was Trump who everyone whined about causing war…

    I seriously doubt Putin will do anything. The consequences for him are too great. This is all posturing.
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  • Posted by 2 years, 8 months ago
    Psychopaths and idiots... Madmen can choose all-out nucs or EMP nucs . Either would be devastating to civilization, and I really hope we don't find out. Thank you, spineless, ball-less Obiden for this wonderful future.
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  • Posted by mhubb 2 years, 8 months ago
    ok
    from what i heard on Fox yesterday
    Russian Recon forces were engaged

    Recon goes and looks around, gets into small fights to see what is in front of it

    it does not engage in pitched battles

    rifles do not stop tanks
    and i doubt that the Russian Rules of Engagement would be like the ones we used that cause us to loose so many people (having to phone home to shoot someone carrying a gun for example)

    we do not know what the Russian plan is or how it is going
    or
    maybe they stole too much from our generals that screw Iraq and Afghanistan up
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 2 years, 8 months ago
    Having grown up in Texas during the Cuban Missile Crisis, we knew the possibility of nukes. However, haaving also seen a UFO, up close, I feel the space aliens are here. They do not like nukes, shut down missile silos in Mont. a few years back. They have been seen over Iran recently, and I think that they will shut down any idiot who thinks anyone can win using nukes. Israel has admitted they are actually in touch with the space visitors, so I trust them more than Biden.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 2 years, 8 months ago
    Putin has become mentally unstable, maybe he is thinking that if he can't have Ukraine no one can. He better checks the weather forecast before pushing the button because the fallout could blow into Russia, killing many citizens and contaminating cities.
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    • Posted by term2 2 years, 8 months ago
      I think he is not unstable at all. He has told us for years what he wants, and he has picked now to invade Ukraine because the USA and Biden are weak
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  • Posted by CTYankee44 2 years, 8 months ago
    This makes no sense! Would the generals allow Putin to order a nuclear strike? Would the generals try to sneak in a nuclear strike under Putin's nose?

    Ukraine has nuclear reactors, but not nuclear weapons. What are they going to do, fire off another Chernobyl?
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  • Posted by Arthgallo 2 years, 8 months ago
    If you want to take over a country you don’t nuke it. You destroy what you intend to occupy. “Plunder and THEN burn”
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    • Posted by Dobrien 2 years, 8 months ago
      Or you just take out your hostile neighbors bioweapon labs and root out the Soros/ Clinton/Obama/Quid pro Joe Brown shirt
      Neo Nazi’s, btw we call them Anti-fa or BLM here.
      Then you knock out the bad guy’s ability to fight back.
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  • Posted by starbird56 2 years, 8 months ago
    I was reading an article about what to do in case of nuclear blasts. Yes, I remember those duck and cover drills. This time around, the main takeaway was be sure to wear your mask to prevent spread of covid while taking cover in a bomb shelter. What a mad, mad world we live in.
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