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COVID Vaccine Failure

Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 5 months ago to Science
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Just learned that in California, among those vaccinated for COVID, 5,305 people have come down with COVID after vaccination, "at least" 373 have been hospitalized, and "at least" 40 have died. Now...did they die from COVID? I don't know. I put the "at least" in quotes as those words jumped out at me as a little indication of the accuracy of this report.

Several experts have warned that those who have taken the mRNA vaccines may find themselves subject to a cytosine storm type of reaction if subject to another COVID challenge. This is why we normally do animal studies (see the history on that with these vaccines) before releasing to the public. Now, we get to study it on humans vs animals. I hope it goes well. Let's look at the numbers around the end of 2022. Then we should have a good picture.

But, I wouldn't worry. If there's something the government can get right - it's vaccines.

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  • Posted by GaryL 3 years, 5 months ago
    My plan "A" has always been and continues to be to avoid the virus all together.
    My plan "B" if "A" fails is to get over it and rejoice in the Natural Immunity having had the virus will give me. The vaccines themselves scare the crap out of me and with so many medical professionals refusing to take the jab and the fact they have to advertise and beg the general public to take it for free tells me all I need to know.
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  • Posted by kddr22 3 years, 5 months ago
    To clarify first I am not recommended any vaccine for covid but if people are patient there are 2 that are in phase 2 that are different. Vaxart that is oral prep that depends on mucosal antibody response and peptide version covaxx. Both have been tested on animals first and work more like traditional vaccines. I know I am following the science on those watching. Additionally I took the new t cell detect test( awaiting results) to see if already immune. The test can be ordered online and drawn at labcorp
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  • Posted by $ BobCat 3 years, 5 months ago
    Future data will do zero good as long as the Vax deaths are labeled as “Natural Causes”.
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    • Posted by NealS 3 years, 5 months ago
      It will be another dog and pony show scrambling to change the number of viral and or vaccine caused deaths to some other cause, like decapitation in a motorcycle accident. Anything to blame everything and anything on someone else, that is the true game. Actually both sides right now are only guesses, votes, wishes, etc. to coincide with whatever view we might have, prejudiced or not. History will eventually present the results, right or wrong, but it will be accepted as the gospel by the majority, or at least by the majority in power when it occurred. (That kind of says nothing at all, but it makes the earth go around).

      "Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Trump", and I believe he won again in 2020, and we only got cheated because they had to come up with something that might actually work because what they attempted in 2016 thankfully didn't. What's happened to Durham, is he still out there or has he disappeared and been given a new identity by the FBI? I notice they are now making use everyone knows Ashli Babbitt was a conspiracy theorist and devout activist. Another words she deserved to be shot, even as we saw in the video not actually being a threat to anyone. might as well have shot her in the back. Had she only been black. Where was Ashli Babbitt actually buried? Was the FBI involved, did she get a new identity to help the cause? When are the results of the election audits coming out? Have they considered having a recent computer science graduate write a program that can actually count votes accurately? Maybe we should have continued numbering people on their arms, it might make the voting process easier and more accurate. (I know, I'm going off the deep end, forgive me. This is the most ridiculous time of my life in respect to the actions of the human race and the whole world too.)
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  • Posted by Russpilot 3 years, 5 months ago
    I am so sure about this vaccine that I have decided I will only wait for the 1 and 3 year study to come out for it before consideration!
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    • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 5 months ago
      I think we'll have a good picture in 18 months. But, if this is like other similar pandemics it will be passed by then. But...the MSM will work really hard to keep everybody really scared up until then...probably reporting that everybody's dying, etc.
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      • Posted by Russpilot 3 years, 5 months ago
        I agree. I just wonder what the narrative is going to be in that 18-24 month window when people are dying and the virus is gone. How many people are going to put the two together? Will anyone report on it? I am not hopeful that it will be covered as it should, but I do believe we are going to see spikes in death and autoimmune issues.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 5 months ago
    My fishing buddy got COVID. Then, he took the two Moderna or Pfizer shots. He soon afterward suffered a detached retina and had to undergo emergency surgery. I can't help but wonder if it's related. Not very sure about that. Another close friend had COVID, got both shots and developed a permanent heart condition. This guy is a fit guy, about 50. I think the heart condition was brought on by the COVID, as more reports of such conditions are coming to light. Maybe this is just part of getting older with your friends...haha...
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 3 years, 5 months ago
    I hope our fears prove to be groundless because my BFF took the vaccine. She has multiple health problems and has been ill since December 2019. I actually think she had the virus and now two vaccines. I pray for her every night.
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  • Posted by Andypitt 3 years, 5 months ago
    Doesn't seem like a problem since over 17 million people have been fully vaccinated in California. Rate of infection is .03%! The death rate is .00023% which is miniscule!
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    • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 5 months ago
      I understand. But if your numbers are accurate - two points: If 40 people died in a shooting you'd never hear the end of it. In this case, I have to point it out. to my fellow Objectivists. Do those lives not matter? Hmmm. Second point...If this is based on VAERS reports it only represents 1% of actual cases. That's why I'm going to dig deeper. I can't imagine that's the case here. But, we're talking about government-provided numbers....for what that's worth. I'm a numbers guy, engineer, data geek. Science and statistics are my entertainment...when I'm not fishing or golfing. Oh...and welcome to the Gulch...
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  • Posted by katrinam41 3 years, 5 months ago
    My son got his second dose two days ago, required by his company. Yesterday he had chests pains and other symptoms, took a nitro and was sent home early. Heart attack last year, horrible heat and humidity for Ohio didn't help, but the timing leaves me thinking that shot had a hand in it.
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