My buddy says that we need a new one..."The Honest Party" in America

Thought provoking idea.

I would be more interested in the formation of a group with a large public platform that just championed the American Ideal. They would ignore the specific issues except to educate the public on the ideas relevant to making decisions on those issues.

We have a plethora of politics but a famine of ideas and politics are way downstream. There would be no chance for Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Hamilton, Madison, Monroe, etc. to lead one of our political parties or get elected today. In their day they gained influence and positions of leadership based on ideas not charisma, a slick tongue, promises of "free stuff" and corrupt backdoor cronyism.

Once a reasonable number of voters reach some understanding of better ideas they will want their leaders to come from this group that can form a political party. It is unfortunate that we have to retreat and reform before we can move forward but the longer we wait the more painful it will be.

This is something that most (small-l) libertarians have supported for decades. Both major parties are the enemy of individual liberty and free markets.

At this point it is a waste of time, imo. Why would a new party get a fair vote count from the deep state?

The deep state has shown they will do ANYTHING to stop anyone who opposes their control.
Secession is the only peaceful answer on the part of patriots, and the deep state won't be "peaceful" in response.
If you aren't prepared to respond with force against the force that the deep state is already applying, then you can plan on being a serf.

It’s probably about time. The republicans can’t decide if they wanna be right, center, or left wing in the politely scheme of things. Wherever they “stand” , they still don’t have a backbone. It’s is probably time we broke away - not that ‘elections’ will have any true meaning from this point on.

This is the combination of fiscally left-leaning and gov't involvement in social values is the coalition I have feared because I think they could be a majority. It's almost the exact opposite of what I believe and of my reading of Ayn Rand.

The good part of this is if there an opposite coalition it would be what I think the US is about:
- Patriotic around the idea of liberty, which include the broad goal of everyone participating without regard to origin of birth.
- Economically right-leaning - Small gov't, low taxes, deficits only in bona fide emergencies.
- Government stays out of people's social values.
The bad part of it is I might be in the minority, more so than if there are two economically left groups who hate each other.