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Will You Take the Mandatory COVID Vax?

Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 11 months ago to Government
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Now the chatter is starting on the national news front with a reporter who grew up right near us - Lester Holt. I think there will be a move to make COVID vaccination mandatory in the very near future. My question to my fellow Objectivists is, "Will you submit?"


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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 years, 11 months ago
    Not if it is mandated, I will drive instead of fly, if I have to.

    I don't do Flu vaccines, as I've known for YEARS that the death rates were MADE UP, like Covid deaths (with, vs. of).
    Also, there is a 1 in 4 chance a flu vaccine is right, for any given year. But Doctors are NOT ALLOWED to tell people if this years is working. LMAO. Criminal! [What about do no harm, he asks]. And we have friends who are Pharmacists who say their entire ANNUAL incentive program is reworked to include how many Flu Vaccines their store does. They personally don't take them, and they don't have their family take them, despite it being free and easy. (let that sink in).

    Sorry... The requirement that everyone do it, MUST come with some proof of efficacy and safety WELL BEYOND what we have today!

    If they can block HCQ and Ivermectin... Because not enough RCTs... Then EVERY FLU vaccine should be put through a 20 year RCT.
    And they have to study how ANNUAL vaccines may or may not cause other problems.

    Then when that is all finished, we can talk. But they cannot AFFORD to do that, so they wont. It is a weapon ONLY USED against us. Never for us!
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 11 months ago
    NO!...I choose to live and I am the least likely to get infected by the flu or any other virus...not only is my immune system top notch, I am a Non-secretor.
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  • Posted by Ben_C 3 years, 11 months ago
    No. I know just enough about immunology to be worried about the long term iatrogenic consequences. For those who want to be the guinea pigs - go for it. What I want determined is the possibility of cross immunity from other species - such as the canine / feline corona virus and the human immune response. The CDC's vision is simply too myopic.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 3 years, 11 months ago
    I'm prepared to lose everything if this becomes mandatory or a qualification to participate in society. Entirely serious.
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    • Posted by $ pixelate 3 years, 11 months ago
      This could be the first time that I choose to participate in acts of civil disobedience. In preparation, I have been hiding my stash in remote locations throughout the Pacific Northwest. I keep the maps in my head.
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  • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
    I have heard people toss out the term "anti-vaxers" in recent conversations. It gives me pause because I don't think they have a definition for that term. They are just puking out the term used in the news. I won't take this vaccine, most likely. At the very least I want to see a safe track record that spans more than a year. And ALREADY TODAY THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE IN THE MASS-VAX EFFORT IN ENGLAND WHO HAD ANAPHYLACTIC SHOCK AND THE GOVERNMENT THERE FELT THE URGE TO PUT OUT THE WARNING THAT PEOPLE WITH ALERGIES MIGHT WANT TO AVOID THE VAX. I put it in all caps because this only two about 24 hours to come to light and I also must at that IN AMERICA VACCINE MANUFACTURERS HAVE TOTAL LIABILITY RELEASE FROM DAMAGES CAUSED BY (SPECIFICALLY) VACCINES. IF INJURED YOU MUST PETITITION THE FEDERAL SPECIAL VACCINE COURT THAT TELLS THE PUBLIC THAT VACCINES ARE TOTALLY SAFE WHILE THEY HAVE SIMULTANIOUSLY DOLLED OUT MANY BILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS IN SETTLEMENTS THAT ARE GIVEN WITHOUT HEARINGS!!!! Hope you like my emphasis there. These are inconvenient truths that I'll share only here for you.

    We may be sitting here in the Gulch watching the quickening... I hope not.
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    • Posted by $ Commander 3 years, 11 months ago
      Have you any idea as to how the logistics of vaccine distribution may occur?
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      • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
        Yes. There are two paths established it seems. One via "Warp Speed" which includes McKessan for distribution. And Pfizer's approach which avoided the federal dough and the Federal McKessan contract. Many hospitals are putting in freezers for the Pfizer product (colder). My work is in much of this...
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  • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
    Just saw an ap that will certainly be used. It shows your face on your phone and a big, green background if you've been vaccinated. They will use it to let you attend events. (sporting events, etc.) Oh, but the developer said on the news, "We don't have your medical data, though."

    Haha! Sure they don't.

    This will probably be the ploy. The gov won't do this directly. They'll just do things like incentivize Quantas airlines to require it for you to travel. (also in the news now...no surprise from Australia)

    If you invested in PFE and MRNA you've doing really well lately...
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  • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
    I love this forum because we can have these discussions here without it becoming a melee. I respect all opinions on this. But, I'm wholly opposed to government forced healthcare. This is the issue. My work has had me dive deep into the government-healthcare complex for many years and it has become very clear to me that government should have zero say in healthcare treatments of any kind.

    I want to add that a person labeled and anti-vaxxer by the media put out a message within the past week that she is very healthy (in her 40s) and has never considered suicide...was just found dead. I think this is crazy, no matter how you look at it...
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  • Posted by mia767ca 3 years, 11 months ago
    Moderna & Pfizer , for the first time, will alter your RNA...which forever...there is no history for this method...AstraZenica does not...if forced to, that is the one i will take...

    i am 73 yrs old and past my child-bearing years...my kids and grandkids are not...they will pass this on to their children...future problems with this approach are unknown...

    they are not being forcoming with this information...why
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  • Posted by RevJay4 3 years, 11 months ago
    Nope. The last time I got 'flu' shot, I got the 'flu', big time.
    That was a few years ago. And I have never taken a shot for that since.
    Funny thing. 'Flu' seems to skip me every year. Hmmmm.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 11 months ago
    Don't need it. Have this thing called an immune system. There are things that might kill me, but it won't be the flu.

    Mandatory? Don't think so.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 3 years, 11 months ago
    No way. You cannot get the info as to if it is cultured in egg. When I took swine flu vax, my brain swelled. Also, I am not supposed to take anything with live virus. Even the CVS people have no details. If they make it mandatory, whtey will end up killing people, as Gates did in India, hundreds of thousand, and walked away, after being thrown out of country. It would he murder if they made it mandatory, esp. since there has been no widespread bllod test to see how many alaready are immune, possibley 60%. Clinton did that with soldiers durin Gulf war, before CDC even approved vaccine. My nephew became permanent disabled after they mandated they take the shots, so they dismissed him from Marines!
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    • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
      I know a guy who was washed out of the Coast Guard after they made him take the anthrax vaccine, due to the medical complications from it. That vaccine was never approved for the public from what I know.
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      • Posted by $ Stormi 3 years, 11 months ago
        I have check several drug company websites, trying to get details. I am allergic to egg, on a treatment which says no live virus vaccines also. One site said you may become sick with COVID19 symptoms for 2-3 days, but at a lesser degree than if you had it. All for short term immunity/ I don't think so.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 3 years, 11 months ago
    I need more information on these ready to be distributed vaccines. It seems there is so little info on them makes me suspicious. I don't trust what might be disseminated on the internet. I hope doctors and pharmacies will have definitive info on them.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 3 years, 11 months ago
    NO, Zinc and VitD seem to have done just fine, thank you. Several doctors have stated that it interferes in the replication of the virus and I have been using it for 15 years, and have only had 2 mild "cruds". I have seen people at work sicker than dogs, and spewing all over, yet for COVID we went insane stupid with the whole mask thing, all for something that is 99.5% non lethal to below 70 individuals.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 3 years, 11 months ago
    Like I said. I take the pneumonia vaccine. The flu makes you want to die. Pneumonia will kill you. I have had the flu 4 times...Asian flu, Hong Kong flu, whatever! Haven't had a cold since my first Pneumonia shot 18 years ago.
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 11 months ago
    I do not give up control over what I do with my own body. Therefore if they make it mandatory, I will resist unless I have decided its a good idea on my own.

    They could forbid drivers license renewals unless people have it, deny or revoke passports, not let you have bank accounts, get employers to only hire people who have been vaccinated. All bets are off the table when leftists are in control, so who knows what they will do.
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