Galt's Gulch

Open Borders are Great!

Posted by $ Abaco 4 years, 7 months ago to News
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I'd like to be able to just gallivant all over the globe however I wish. It'd be great. However, here is one problem with that. I do think the Pres was behind the curve on all of this. He dropped the ball.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 4 years, 7 months ago
    "The bulk of the passengers, who were of multiple nationalities, arrived in January, at airports in Los Angeles; San Francisco; New York; Chicago; Seattle; Newark, New Jersey; and Detroit."
    Remember what was happening until early February? The Democrats were doing everything possible to impeach the President with no real evidence (and the former VP Quid Pro Quo Joe Biden had done worse than the POTUS.)
    Exactly whose fault would it be then that so many travelers came from China in January again? Schiff, Pelosi, and NY's favorite looter Senator Upchuck Schumer.
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  • Posted by $ HarmonKaslow 4 years, 7 months ago
    What is the basis of your assertion? Is there some timeline showing when he should have taken "executive" action? In 2019 and before, I believe that every one of his executive orders relating to the border were attacked legally via lawsuits resulting in injunctions et al.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 years, 7 months ago
    But pay attention to how it is written. They are playing the word game. 430,000 people since the outbreak (including all kinds of people).

    And 40,000 since the ban. Well, could 40,000 be close to the number of Americans coming home? Some people living here on visas, etc. Coming back. They say 60% were NOT said citizens, but even that leaves out VISA holders, etc.

    And it looks like Arm Chair Quarterbacking to me!
    Just to attack the President.

    Yep, the deep state probably intercepted the plans and had less screening done. This is how things work. Trumps own DOJ is DEFENDING HRC for NOT testifying live before Judicial Watch Lawyers...

    It's a pit of vipers!
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  • Posted by wmiranda 4 years, 7 months ago
    The Wuhan virus was spread mostly during the Chinese Lunar New Year. Millions of Chinese nationals living around the world returned to China for the festivities to later return to their prospective host countries. The Chinese kept the spread outside of Beijing and Shanghai but did nothing to prevent Lunar Year travelers from leaving China to spread the virus. Coincidence?
    With the market depressed in the western world market movers, China became the biggest buyer in the market. Coincidence you might say. Here in America, the Chinese found the Democrats and fake news media to be an ally when diverting attention to Trump in his "damned if you do and damned if you don't" situations created.
    Coincidence? No- Bull S**t I say.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 4 years, 7 months ago
    3 things are needed to have a world you desire: 1 A common language would help. 2 a common monetary system would also be nice and 3 Everyone on the planet respecting the property of others, having mutuality and a Conscience would be absolutely paramount.

    As it stands, 60% of the population still, after 3000 years, has no meaningful introspection abilities...in short, they are not conscious, (aware of their own actions or consequences...not to mention, mutuality)

    Now, as far as Trump is concerned and as far as I understand the time line and what we knew and when we suspected it, Trump was the first in the western hemisphere to order a travel ban and I am sure that a lot of parasitical unionized humanoids dragged their feet to do as he asked.

    China did not share data nor the truth in a timely fashion which complicated matters.

    Trump is smart but he is no Amazing Kreskin.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 4 years, 7 months ago
      A common monetary system all but requires one central control on money. If it is fiat "money", then given human nature that would inevitably mean centralized power and eventual dictatorship by those who control the monetary system. imo
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 4 years, 7 months ago
        I was thinking...a monetary system based upon gold with the same denominations used for trade...how one country manages their financial affairs is their own business beyond that.
        The control factor would be the value of gold...how to avoid cheating, manipulating?...I haven't a clue.

        But in reality, it's just a wet dream and probable mute...we will never reach that point in the current 5.0 civilization...maybe 6.0 will be the charm.
        (referencing the probable previous 4 12K year global civilizations, plus this one which is likely in it's twilight years.)
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  • Posted by rtpetrick 4 years, 7 months ago
    Abaco...Not to put to fine a point on it, but your conclusion is absurd.....then again....no one can fix stupid..
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    • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years, 7 months ago
      My conclusion isn't that open borders are great, FWIW. My conclusion is that our borders weren't controlled sufficiently. If you disagree, good luck with that.
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      • Posted by rtpetrick 4 years, 7 months ago
        I agree that the borders are not controlled sufficiently. What I don't understand is why you seem to conclude that the president is culpable and behind the curve. Who has been fighting against President Trump's wall...and additional border patrol budget??? Try Pelosi and Schumer and the President Trump-hating media. If, as you conclude, President Trump is "behind the curve" is true, where on the curve was Obama? I think your allegation is typical of anyone suffering acute Trump Derangement Syndrome ie….whatever can be blamed on President Trump, whether true or not....whether logical or not.....is O.K. Good luck with that, pal....Rational Americans aren't buying your narrative.
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        • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years, 7 months ago
          Quite the opposite. I'll mention what a friend of mine once pointed out very astutely. Americans are challenged. They are wired to think in terms of good and evil. "If I like this political party, the other party must always be wrong. My guy must always be right, etc." My friend has some excellent examples. Nancy Kerrigan/Tanya Harding was one of his examples. Nancy must be good, right? He made me laugh with that one, but he was right. I am certainly not somebody with TDS, trust me. I can't stand the left, especially those in the swamp. But, Trump needs to keep the pedal down in his actions in draining the swamp. It's certainly tough being a leader. But, he needs to really crack down on the immigration holes, regulations, taxes, basic liberties. I've seen him lifting his right foot a little. Perhaps he thinks that will help his reelection. But, I don't think so. He's already been impeached. Yes. He was behind the curve. Obama was ass-over-tea-kettle behind the curve. Both were wrong. Trump was a little wrong. I hope that makes sense.

          I repeat - Our borders were not sufficiently controlled. We could have done better. Hillary probably would have me sitting in one of her "camp for adults" by now, however.
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          • Posted by $ blarman 4 years, 7 months ago
            "Our borders were not sufficiently controlled."

            And who exactly has been responsible for this for the past 30 years? Who has continually obstructed any efforts at border control, immigration reform, etc. Democrats. No President since FDR has been so concerned about our borders - and FDR just used it to emprison American citizens of Japanese descent. Trump has even been building the wall by re-directing money from the military budget. And he's been doing it despite lawsuits against him at every step.

            I agree that our borders need better control, but I can't agree with you that Trump is to blame.
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          • Posted by rtpetrick 4 years, 7 months ago
            O.K. I can agree with the clarification of your position overall. Not sure I do regarding President Trump "lifting his right foot a little". I'd say, given the politics of the virus, the reality of the virus, the eternal negative media attacks, the constant resistance of both Dems and RINOS, jobs, the economy, trade deals, and a bunch of other smaller issues......that his plate is very full.
            He just recently however, discussed progress on the Wall during one of his mandatory virus updates. You are correct that we are not hearing much about the borders, immigration, and regs. I don't think that the bogus impeachment bothers him, and I don't think that he is particularly worried about his chances in November, regardless of what the pundits say. Remember, they predicted that Hillary would win...90%....speaking of which, this country dodged a large caliber bullet in Nov. 2016 when Hillary's bid was unsuccessful....and now that the Bern has been bought off, the Dems are left with Biden.....unless a mystery candidate shows up in the eleventh hour.....Other wise Dems, good luck with mentally impaired Biden. But, we'll see...soon enough.
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  • Posted by Lucky 4 years, 7 months ago
    Cannot recall the source but here is the proposition:

    In any part of the globe, Dec 2019-Feb 2020, the number of infections was proportional to the number of arrivals divided by the air journey time from Wuhan.
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