Paul, Please read, send others, Barry

The Stanford hospital board: The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days.How can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have fever and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late.A simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection.In critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air.

Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry.Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why?
Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous.
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS
1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold
2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.
3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees Centigrade. (78-81F). It hates the Sun.
4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.
5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.
6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.
7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.
8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.
9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.
10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water!
THE SYMPTOMS
1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days
2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.
3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.
4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.
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I am still in Verona, Italy. Now no one can go outside without a signed form in Italian, explaining why you are outside and where you are going. Only valid reason is to get food or medicine, or traveling home. The streets are deserted, no people, no cars.

Former governor of California, Jerry Brown, signed a law allowing for medical martial law. It places the country health official in charge of law enforcement. When our first fatality from this illness recently occurred in a Roseville, CA hospital the victim's neighborhood came under police blockade and everybody was ordered to stay in their homes. The media let one report of this slip out, including photos of the cop cars blocking the roads, and the story has since quietly faded away.

Yes, Italy has the highest proportion of old people in Europe, and it has high population density, so that is why their death rate has been higher. The Italian health system is good, they are doing a good job here. The restrictions are devastating for the economy though. The economy was already bad, now it is really really bad, especially for hotels, restaurants, and all the other businesses that rely on tourism. I was in Venice for Carnevale, one day before they shut it down. We called it Coronavale. Now Venice is shut down, no cruise ships, no tourists. Tourism was the only thing keeping Venice alive.

I am in Verona Italy right now, and have been for 3 weeks. All schools closed, bars and restaurants must close by 6 pm. Most have simply shut down. If you go in a store, you must be one meter apart. They even have tape on the floors measured one meter to keep people separated. The streets are almost empty. Amazingly, the Italians are following the rules. We will see if this works. I think if they try this in America it will be chaos, but it may be the only answer. Matching the trajectory for increase in cases comparing the U.S. and Italy, the U.S. is only about 11 days behind Italy. But at least in Italy you can still by toilet paper!

I will take prudent precautions. But to get involved with statistics from over 100 years ago, computer models and such to make predictions, sound too much like climate change science. Thousand have died of the flu during this years flu season, an almost yearly event. But no consternation there, is there? Sorry, I'll pass. Sounds too much like a Y2K event and for money transfers and political benefit.

A positive note from China: the rate of infections is falling, and some of the quarantine restrictions are being lifted. The worst of the pandemic should pass within weeks, if necessary precautions are enacted.

The economic impact of this viral outbreak should be relieved within the next couple of months, and be on the rise before the elections in November, which will foil the Democrat hopes of using a recession to oust Trump.

To answer the question, I guess the answer is another question: How far are we allowed to go to prevent people from doing stupid things to themselves? If you are a parent quite a ways but if the other person is a functioning adult not very far at all - morally - without devolving into tyranny. But are we allowed to act to prevent people from doing stupid things which may affect others? That's the grey area where the answer can be yes or no. In this case, I'm inclined to say yes, but I will agree that there is a huge concern about a return to freedom once the danger is past.

Freedom, I know you heard about the two books that predicted this virus from Wuhan china but there might be a connection no one has caught yet.

Interesting connection I just made.
Why did the UN change Agenda 21 to Agenda 2030?
Now...read what was predicted in 08...and was predicted 40 yrs before that!
https://www.indiatoday.in/trending-ne...

In the book it predicts that the virus will diappear and return 10 years later?.?.?.?

We at Hospice are seeing our elderly volunteers staying home for a while....but everyone else is out buying toilet paper...as witnessed IN THE MEME TIME...2 Editions this week...

I may have been mistaken in being so outspoken with doubt about this emergency. Seeing all those good people backing up Mr. Trump in his efforts, perhaps I was too suspicious. I say this with reservations. Not about Trump, about the virus.

No.

First, the Spanish Flu had a 10% to 20% Global Case Fatality Rate (500 million infected, 50 to 100 million deaths). Covid-19 appears to be running in the 1% Case Fatality Rate range.

Second, treatment options in 1918 were primitive at best - aspirin for fever, epinephrine for pneumonia, oxygen (sometimes injected sub-q) for cyanosis. Diagnostic tools went little farther than a thermometer and a stethoscope. A century later we have literally thousands of diagnostics and scientifically-proven treatments for symptoms, a solid understanding of virology, and decades of experience in vaccination.

Third, "martial law" does not stop viruses and in fact recent efforts in that direction - such as the quarantining of a cruise ship which turned a tiny handful of cases into hundreds - can have the opposite effect.

Testing and precautions make sense; police-state oppression does not.

Oh whoopedoop this is all we need. Yes indeed. Declare Martial Law, set aside our Constitution, kiss my you know what! This is disgusting. Quarantine China! They started this. Invoke a serious fine on them for their foolishness.