Galt's Gulch

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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 4 months ago
    This may well be the most far reaching and egregious executive order of Obama.

    I've been the target of the NLRB under similar fraudulent allegations and it's not fun, even without this order.
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  • Posted by Jim1Wood 10 years, 4 months ago
    Those who contract to do business with the federal government are compelled to accept its whims... or else.

    Justice between two entities would be called a fair trade. I doubt that a fair trade is possible if one of the entities is the federal government.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 4 months ago
    The real intent of this ExecOrd is found in this phrase: "The order also bans using perfectly legal arbitration agreements," which makes this a sop to the trial lawyers.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 4 months ago
    Nothing like a little "fair play and brother-love" from ol' Potus... Of course, the "2" of the "one-two" punch is that as more and more comes under control of the dotgov, fewer and fewer businesses will be able to do business, and either come under the control of the dotgov or be forced out...

    ...and Stalin nods warmly in approval of this scheme...
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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 4 months ago
    Thank You for calling it what it is::: fascism. the
    central direction of private enterprise *plus* govt.

    39 years ago, when I hired on at k25 in oak ridge,
    davis-bacon was the egregious law which kept us
    from doing anything over $2,000 in value which might
    be done by a subcontractor -- like hanging a high-speed
    overhead door on the fire station -- without jumping through
    hoops with lawyers and piles of paper to prove that we
    (as the prime contractor) could do it as well as they could.
    this new EO makes it MORE costly and litigious. -- j

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    • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 4 months ago
      Hello johnpe1,
      Sad that more Americans don't see it for what it is. I understand from my nieces and nephews that history, social studies, and civics are not taught in the way they once were. The responsibility lies with the same statist, villains from on high...
      Regards,
      O.A.
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  • Posted by helidrvr 10 years, 4 months ago
    There is, for me at least, a good news side to these types of escalations. In my view, a government "contractor" is just another tax consumer feeding at the trough. If fascism is defined as the systemic collusion between business owners and politicians, then every government contractor is a fascist in fact. The more onerous and risky such tax consumption becomes the less appealing will it be. More and more of us will in this way come to understand the folly of "working" with and for sociopaths.
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    • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 4 months ago
      Hello Helidrvr,
      Many of my customers are manufacturers that have worked for the government in the past and some still do, but this will just add more cost to the production and gouge the taxpayers unnecessarily.. Too many hoops to jump through and lawyers to protect yourself from the leviathan. This is why our Arms (planes, tanks, etc.) cost so much. Now more honest suppliers will just opt out.
      Respectfully,
      O.A.

      P.S. One more note: Fascism will in many cases present itself without collusion. All it takes is the government control and mandates. Many businesses will merely comply because of necessity and pressure. They will not do it of their own initiative.
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      • Posted by helidrvr 10 years, 4 months ago
        All excellent points of fact. My admittedly somewhat unforgiving comments are ultimately founded in the conviction that leviathan's collapse is inevitable. This is not a matter of "if" but of "when". Since it's inevitable, anything that will hasten the process is "good" in my book. The sooner the better, don't you agree?
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        Posted by LibertasAutLetum 10 years, 4 months ago
        So you are saying that if the Federal Government opened its own manufacturing facilities and stopped hiring civilians who compete against each other to offer the lowest price, it would somehow magically reduce the cost of military equipment?
        Please show me some shred of evidence that this would be even remotely true.
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        • Posted by helidrvr 10 years, 4 months ago
          Not sure whom you are addressing this to, but for my part I agree that the cost of government purchases would increase dramatically, thereby hastening its inevitable collapse.
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        • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 4 months ago
          Hello LibertasAutLetum,
          I am not sure what you are suggesting. I have said no such thing. I routinely do government work and I have never seen a government run enterprise that can compete with a private one. I believe you have misread something or I have not made my self clear. Perhaps you meant to address this comment to another party and replied in the wrong place?
          Respectfully,
          O.A.
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    • Posted by tdechaine 10 years, 4 months ago
      You're ignoring many things; e.g. much higher govt. costs, private contractors affected as well, immoral over-reach. This is disgusting!
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      • Posted by helidrvr 10 years, 4 months ago
        Ignoring higher govt. cost? I LOVE higher govt. costs. The more expensive to maintain that leviathan becomes the sooner it will have to start shrinking. Private contractors which work for government are exactly the tax consumers I meant to describe. And yes, I agree it is indeed disgusting. LOL
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        • Posted by tdechaine 10 years, 4 months ago
          I was referring to truly private contractors who do not work for Govt. They can compete with union contractors. And, no, under statist rule as we are with Obama, higher costs will not lead to cost control.
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          • Posted by helidrvr 10 years, 4 months ago
            You're absolutely correct. But they may hasten the collapse.

            I'm one of those private entrepreneurs myself. Since I depend on govt. for nothing now, I'm not too worried about surviving with less of it at some point in the future.
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    • Posted by LibertasAutLetum 10 years, 4 months ago
      I think you are mistaken at best, willfully ignorant at worst.
      I work for a government contractor.
      The projects we work on will be done and get paid for regardless of who works on them so wouldn't you rather it be a civilian and not a government employee?
      We get awarded our contracts because we compete, in a free market, against other civilian companies by offering the best service at the lowest price. (Capitalism anyone?)
      How dare you suggest that I am a fascist "feeding at the trough"?
      Do you honestly believe that if the Federal government performed these tasks behind closed doors, writing their own checks to themselves, and NOT allowing a highly competitive market decide the cost that it would indeed reduce the tax consumption you are talking about?
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