Can anyone tell me why this is happening?
We keep seeing more and more of this. This one being a female was a little different, but what the heck is going on in the kids who want to shoot up a school? It does say that she had been removed from this school and not allowed back in due to past transgressions of bringing weapons to school.
...No wonder this kind of stuff is happening more often.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/california...
To precharge someone for a crime they may or may not commit in the future is contrary to the presumption of innocence and bypasses due process. It opens Pandora's box where anyone or any entity can make an argument, or fabricate an argument, to have anyone detained or arrested.
No, it better to wait until such time this woman is armed and stepping on school grounds, one toe.
https://ktul.com/news/local/mcalester...
I agree with your premise, however, the real issue is that the past events (which are suspiciously repetitive) indicated that there was always clear warnings and signs of impending actions, so preemptive actions are the only option left to law enforcement. The suspicion generated may be the whole point of the repetitive exercises. If you want to build an atmosphere of suspicion and doubt, isn't this how to do it?
Reminds me of the Benjamin Franklin quote, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
We will end up on this path until people start taking personal responsibility for their own safety. This is going to destroy many people that did nothing wrong.
I agree and will add that there's a difference between preemptive actions to stop common crimes like traffic violations, tax evasion, or recreational drug use and one-in-a-million crimes like shooting up a school. I'm against fishing / entrapment for any crimes, but at least with tax evasion or drugs, you could catch a lot of "guilty" people. The nature of one-in-a-million crimes is preemptive efforts will be mostly false positives, mostly gov't intruding on law-abiding citizens.
Is this an example of what can happen once "red flag" laws are in place? There's no corroborating evidence, other than the accused's possession of guns, but it was sufficient to not only confiscate the legally owned firearms, but arrest her.
The reason she was suspended from school was for carrying a knife. She said she had been bullied. Was she carrying the knife as self protection?
Lots of material for a defense attorney, and I hope she gets a good one.
Sad thing is she may not be able to afford a good attorney and get stuck with a government appointment.
I'll simply come back to the above Benjamin Franklin quote, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
I understand you think that this is a (pre-emptive) assault upon the liberty of free speech, but it isn't. The police responded to an assault charge. One doesn't get to make threats against another person's life and simply call it "free speech" or "protected speech" - even puffery. It wasn't the possession of firearms and ammunition that got her into trouble, but the threat. The firearms only legitimized the threat.
Definition of assault
(Entry 1 of 2)
1a : a violent physical or verbal attack
b : a military attack usually involving direct combat with enemy forces an assault on the enemy's air base
c : a concerted effort (as to reach a goal or defeat an adversary) an assault on drug trafficking
2 law a : a threat or attempt to inflict offensive physical contact or bodily harm on a person (as by lifting a fist in a threatening manner) that puts the person in immediate danger of or in apprehension (see apprehension sense 1) of such harm or contact
As I said, she was arrested and she'll get her day in court. The prosecution carries the burden of proof. Let's see what happens with that. I didn't see it in the article, but usually when you arrest someone there has to be a warrant, which also must be based on probable cause and/or evidence. So let's see the warrant, as it must spell out the alleged criminal behavior.
With the various forms of red flag laws creeping through the state and federal systems, expect to see lots of false arrests, based on malice, fear, or a political agenda. Sadly, for all the hype about people that could be prosecuted for false testimony, most are forgiven when they plead fear for themselves or others. This witch hunt is only starting, and when some falsely accused begin to resist, the ensuing violence will be used as further justification for persecution.
Why can't policies be like the gravity that takes everything I unintentionally drop to the floor (to the darkest, most difficult place to retrieve), i.e., to the most local level.
the proper function of government is to protect man from force (including fraud) and violence, and to punish same. Other things should be left to the individual citizens. Also, education teaches thought processes, and that is something which should definitely not be under the control of the government.
I do not know how to do it here. But if you give me an email address, I can send you a short video when in which a gentleman explains some the root causes of such violent actions. I think he is close to the mark.
Best wishes.
Sincerely,
Maritimus
Then I look at the laws. Did you know that California just passed a law revoking parental privilege? Now the State gets to determine what is good for children to learn and how it is acceptable to act.
Family values are under assault every day and in every situation. While I'd love to believe that traditional values were standing strong, I see many even in my conservative community questioning. I appreciate your optimism, however.
2. The person who gave the msg to the police could have fabricated it. I'm sure the authorities will verify it's authenticity.
3. Assuming it was a real plot to shoot random people, it would be good to see cold data on much this type of crime has increased. My sense is it has, but I don't know. If you showed me one tragic story after another about healthy young people being killed or paralyzed by slipping on stairs, it might feel like a sudden epidemic.