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Suspect Waves a Gun at Customers in Dollar General; Two Seconds Later He’s Dead

Posted by IndianaGary 9 years, 9 months ago to News
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In an Orrville, Alabama Dollar General Thursday, a suspect burst in waving a gun. He threatened to kill everyone in the store. Luckily, he did not get that chance. A customer pulled out their concealed firearm and shot the suspect in the chest. He died instantly.

This is how predators should be handled!


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  • Posted by Maritimus 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hi, Robbie,
    No need to worry! I lost those habits long time ago. Besides, I could never match the real masters of the art.
    I think that I noticed, over the decades since I came, that Americans are gradually using more and more their hands in "speaking". Do you notice that?
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The problem with Italian is it is an auditory and visual language. Common joke (for those who can't take a culturally based joke, stop reading now):

    How do you gag an Italian?

    Tie his hands behind his back.
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  • Posted by Maritimus 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hi, K,
    Thank you very much. I hope that you will be around for much longer than that. Do I need to remind you when the time comes ;-) ?
    All the best.
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  • Posted by xthinker88 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I generally do not disagree with you. I guess I don't disagree with the requirement enough to not follow it though. Especially in a shall issue state.

    I'm still thinking that it was not originally intended to limit the ability of States to have some oversight in this area. Although, unlike the first, it does not start with "Congress...". And the 14th amendment would render that argument null and void anyway.

    Plus, as I mentioned, the "shall not be questioned" in the PA constitution is actually stronger language than the US constitution. If you cannot even question my right to keep and bear arms for my own defense or the defense of the Commonwealth. I believe that that clause pre-dates the US constitution as well but I'm not sure.

    However, the PA LTCF clearly "questions" the rights of citizens and the Philadelphia police often harass citizens even if they have the license.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Arguably, I would agree. Legally, we keep riding the tide of court decisions overriding restrictions until the day comes when the original intent of the Second Amendment becomes reinstated.
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  • Posted by eddieh 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To drive a car in every state you require a permit and a road test and a recomended course.Most people don't n have a promlem with that.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that he intentionally included the "on parole" as a qualifier looking to my absolutist terminology. I've since qualified that original post.

    To my understanding, a convicted felon has forfeited their right to posses a fire arm. However, a pardoned person, even a mass murderer that used guns to commit the crime, can posses, as that crime was expunged.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Depends on how faithful you want to be to the Constitution. The SCOTUS has said that some rights can be relinquished by various individuals - convicted felons and the insane are two. I'm not an absolutist, but lean towards allowing rather than prohibiting. A convicted felon of a crime not involving deadly force, in my opinion, would not qualify for prohibition (so your bank robber might or might not be acceptable, depending on how they made the robbery).

    That said, a blanket requirement for a license, clearly is an unconstitutional infringement.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    open carry is permitted everywhere by the one authority that counts... the Constitution.

    What you mean to say is that open carry is not infringed upon in Wisconsin...
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    check your premise.

    The key words, "on parole". A prisoner on parole is not a free man.

    A convicted murderer (citizen), who's served his sentence or been granted a pardon, has every bit as much right to carry a weapon as does a citizen who's committed no crime.
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  • Posted by xthinker88 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So a convicted bank robber on parole should be allowed to carry? Or is that an infringement? By your absolute definition it's an infringement.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Seems pretty straightforward to me - "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Requiring a license, even one that cannot be denied, is an infringement. You are permitted, by the constitution, to "bear arms." Thus, you are allowed to carry. Constitutional carry is merely a positive enunciation of what already is a protected right.
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  • Posted by xthinker88 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    PA supposedly has formal reciprocity with 20 states. In addition, 9 states have informal statutory reciprocity. And 2 states don't require permits. So my PA LTCF allows me to carry in 31 states. I can drive from Philly to Phoenix packing all the way. So long as I cut down through WV and don't go into Ohio or MD.
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  • Posted by xthinker88 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's not really true. There is nothing in the Constitution that stipulates how States can regulate the carrying of firearms in their state.

    Ironically, the PA constitution is even less ambiguous than the US constitution. It states that the right of a citizen to keep and bear arms, for their own defense or that of the Commonwealth, shall not be questioned. So one could argue that requiring a citizen to have a permit in PA is actually unconstitutional from a state perspective.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not correct. In Wisconsin, former military and police have no requirement to attend training (although I did, just to know what the legal issues are with self-defense). I also did not register for the class nor have applied for a concealed carry permit - open carry is permitted in Wisconsin.
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  • Posted by XenokRoy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Training, while I do not think it should be required, should be suggested. I have taken several courses with firearms.

    I still do not feel confident with my accuracy with a handgun. Give me a rifle and I can hit a 2 inch circle at 300 meters with 9 out of 10 rounds or 10 out of 10 rounds every time. A handgun at 20 feet I can hit that same circle about 5 out of 10 times.

    Te me a hand gun is for target shooting, or to help me get to a rifle, nothing more. I do not pack one as I would rather have a knife at 20 feet and beyond that I would not shoot if anyone else was around the target. My accuracy is not there.

    Without training I would not know this fact about myself. I suck with handguns, close quarters I will take a knife or my Bushmaster AR15 M4 over a handgun as I can use them both better.

    People that pack a weapon should know there limitations with that weapon; perhaps more important, the capabilities with the weapon. Then they can operate with some intelligence and reason rather than guesswork and conjecture.

    Even saying that, it should not be required and neither should a permit.
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