Socialists' Fake News - Emolument Clause of Constitution

Posted by dbhalling 7 years, 5 months ago to Politics
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The F___ing Socialists want to talk about Trump (who I hate). This whole story started by the exposure that Hillary was forcing foreign governments to pay to talk to her as Sec. of State.

It is amazing that Republicans are falling right into this diversion. The real question is did Hillary do this, did the Clinton Foundation pay for Chelsea's wedding, etc etc etc.


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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hi Dr Zarkov99,
    I believe you meant to say financial advisor not investor. In the case of the Donald he never has been a big stock investor . I am not in disagreement with your premise . Trump himself will have to be ethical and have a strong moral compass to assure he doesn't benefit from his policies .

    His investments in public companies amounted to less than 5% of his assets and they have been sold or liquidated. So in his situation (cash and private co.) the Chairman of the board (him) controls all the business decisions unless he has authorized an employee but it still is his total control.

    Non voting stock is a moot point since there are no other public shareholders.
    In my understanding usually non voting stock often called class b shares are for the public as it allows the controlling share holders to sell stock without diluting their control.

    See Donald Trump sold all of his stock holdings in June, a transition spokesman said Tuesday, potentially helping the president-elect avoid some conflicts of interest when he takes office in January.Dec 6, 2016

    With a net worth estimated by Forbes to be $3.7 billion after liquidating his stock portfolio his proceeds were aprx $186 million liquid cash that is less than 5% of his net worth. The rest of his assets are in his private real estate co.s and affiliates along with a Boeing Jet plus afew very valuable homes In Trump tower and Palm Beach, Fl.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So true Herb , it really boils down to ethics and morals. I don't know for sure ,but Trump has all the luxuries that he or his family will ever need.
    So what I hope is that his ego drives him to be seen historically as a great leader and President who put the country on a better path.
    Clintons are looters ,shakedown artists and frauds.
    Of course that is kind description.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    " Any investor is going to work to make the client wealthier by choosing healthy investments for the blind trust."
    Are you saying choosing healthy investments is the same as the investor working together with the POTUS?
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 7 years, 5 months ago
    If Trump uses his position as POTUS for personal gain by virtue of granting special government favors only available to him by virtue of his position, to foreign governments or nationals, then the clause seems applicable. If on the other hand he is enriched by foreigners because of his personal business relations/dealings standing alone on their own, without government influence then the spirit of the law seems to me to be upheld.

    Yes the diversion tactic is working, because the Republicans are largely incapable of making the moral argument and all too sensitive to the media narratives. Also, many of them are defensive because their hands are not clean either.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 7 years, 5 months ago
    The Clintons' blatant conflicts of interest pretty much insulate Trump from Constitutional objections to his business dealings. After taking office, Trump will almost certainly engage in whatever business behavior he deems appropriate.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, disintegrated by the purity of sunlight like some nasty evil bloodsucking vampire in Bram Stoker's novel, Dracula, which me dino read a long time ago.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 7 years, 5 months ago
    I understand the common sense reason behind the emoluments clause, but in the case of Trump the only image that nags me is the salivating of the looters as Hank Rearden was forced to liquidate his businesses.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We are hoping the cosmic rays get her by the road side...melting....melting and Steam comin off of it!
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Now considering her laugh, me dino thinks we're lucky Cackles has not caused the sun to explode.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Me dino translates "the end" as the idiotic dream of global socialism with suicidal wide open borders justifies the means.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Perfect, my wife and I were talking about that kind of hat last night. We didn't know the name .
    Just that my dad wore one back in his work days and Her Grandpa also as they were quite popular
    Not so much anymore although I don't know why,
    You are far more likely to see a crooked ball cap.
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  • Posted by andrewtroy 7 years, 5 months ago
    Indeed, the looters are lining up for the feast. A powerful and convincing argument if looked at from a certain slant. I read the entire paper, and particularly enjoyed the references to the Founders and their original intent. Otherwise, the vast majority of sources were from someone named Teachout and his book(s), The New York Times, Washington Post, and Politico. I do understand db's socialist concerns!!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Let's be real.
    Blind trust or any other device cannot keep a President from knowing exactly what's going on if he wants to know. As a matter of fact, he'd probably know more than before he was in office. The man has resources and undercover persons at his fingertips. So, either you trust him not to be self-serving or you don't. One thing for sure, had the Clinton woman been elected it would be Katy bar the door. She'd walk away a billionaire for sure without producing a thing.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Have him wear a Homburg hat and then whip it off when he puts his hand on the bible. Sensation!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Someone doesn't like you giving credit to Hillarity.
    The thing is that it's presently illegal but due to DC Elitism she gets a free pass.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You can't purchase goods and services with an honorary degree that is a big difference.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    According to theMichigan recount where
    To many votes for voters in the urban Clinton precincts. I would think that would be the case in some others as well.
    The end justifies the means!
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 7 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks, Herb. Para 1 was just open speculation. It was humorous, perhaps satirical. But, really, if you know science fiction, then you might recall that in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress Robert Heinlein suggested paying legislators a million credits a year, but making them pay for programs out of their own salaries. Just sayin' there's lots of ways to do things and capitalism offers some opportunities...

    It was blatant of her to hit them up for cash, but, really, how is that different from a foreign (government) university giving her an honorary doctorate, or otherwise draping an honor over her shoulders?
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  • Posted by strugatsky 7 years, 5 months ago
    Why are we discussing an obvious liberal last straw comment, just as they sink due to total moral collapse? Why are we wasting our energy? The libtards' "think tanks" have really become safe spaces for adolescents; let them blow hot air all they want.
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