I wish my father had read Atlas Shrugged
Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 1 month ago to The Gulch: General
I have mentioned before that my family owns a small business. While our earnings reports may not move the Dow Industrial Average it is all we have and it is successful enough to support us. My father began working at this business in 1962. Another in a series of jobs he took to help support the family of farm. As the farm fell on hard times dad quit school to help support the family. He married and soon had kids to support. In 1964 his father was murdered. Tough times became tougher. He ultimately became a full partner in the business we now own. Unfortunately his partner was stealing . He bought her out and while all is well I think if dad have read Atlas Shrugged we would have abandoned the thief who was his partner and we would be fine. She would be much worse off. As I thought of this tonight I wondered if other Gulch members wish their relatives had read Atlas Shrugged. It has a way of changing lives.
My Mom has read it (after I suggested it)...she gets it, but she's always been more aware and logical than most. I've given it to many others and suggested it numerous times...I do not understand the hesitation people have and I've chopped most of them off as a result.
I read Atlas somewhere between 14 and 16 when my mother recommended it to me after she had read it.
The most interesting thing to me is that I have 2 brothers, both of whom turned out to be lazy moochers. I'm pretty sure neither read Rand; they would be too lazy.
Since I read Atlas 45 years or so ago, I have been so sad to see it all coming true, and often I think, "But it doesn't have to be this way!"
So Galt's Gulch has been on oasis in the desert; comfort for my soul. I know people like you exist, but it means everything to actually communicate with you.
I look forward to your views.
I get the sob stories about how they lost their jobs, they cant find work, etc. I tell them they should look harder and that they are spending as much energy on begging as they would at a job. For the young ones, I look them in the eye and tell them they are young and look healthy, and what are they doing trying to get money from someone like me who is old and sick but still working, and how I should ask THEM for money. They never give me any, but just walk away telling me "god bless". I then tell them that god should bless THEM instead, cause I have already been blessed.
My grandmother lost my grandfather in a mining accident in the early 1900's after coming here from Italy. Then there was the depression and she lost all savings in a bank failure. All the kids were taken by the catholic church into their orphanage until my grandmother could get back on her feet. All that time my grandmother was a "single parent" and worked continuously, learning english and doing whatever she could. As I remember it, my mother said they were in the orphanage for several years (depth of the depression), and they was so embarrassed that she and my aunt didnt even tell me until she was in her 70's. It was a stigma back then. Today, I am happy that the church was there for them.
as a "devout Baptist," he took issue with Dagny's
serial monogamy, and loved all the rest. -- j
sears manager, marketing teacher, scrounger
and good friend. . I was extraordinarily lucky. -- j
An interesting thought experiment.
Regards.
Regards.
Through dad later I got to meet his friend that he did some work for, some actor guy, that was going to run for governor of California. His friend actually won, and in later years went on to win the presidency of the United States. My parents both worked very hard on both of the campaigns, they really liked this guy. I've still got a happy birthday card that Ron and Nancy sent to my dad from the White House.
Sorry, I get carried away a little by some of your posts, so many of them just bring back little things that I have forgotten about. Thank You !!!
He would be saddened by things now I'm sure. A friend of mine worked for him, and the his successor. A marine that was always stationed w/them, flew where they went. I have a birthday card from GHW Bush and Barbara from their time in the WH.
One of our fellow gulchers took him out crabbing actually. I will ask if she will post the photo...
I'm guessing A=A.
Being retired infantry etc. I asked him one day sort of out of the blue why his generation fought WWII and then voted the same type of political beliefs into power at home.
Well that got things going at first heatedly but he thought about it. By the end of his life he had become a Libertarian in his voting and one day shocked us all wearing a Limbaugh T Shirt.
Didn't like the guy though. Just did it to push buttons on the rest of us.
Just before he died he wrote a paper and described the 1900s as the Century of the Socialist Wars each version struggling for supremacy. By then he was voting Libertarian or for the better Independents.
That's my story.
My mother did not care for philosophy, or reading. She was quite influenced by what society thought was proper, but she did have a good gut feeling for economics and was generally conservative.
Both of my sisters have read Ayn Rand at one time or another. One of them is a socialist; one is a liberal. I disagree with them frequently...
Jan
Jan
My dad would not have read it. However, if by some miracle he did, he would have written it off as SciFi nonsense. Since the Gulch is not a therapy group, I won't go into it any deeper other than to say, that if my dad read it and actually liked and understood it, both our lives would have been much better and happier.
I was in business for 25 years. I was naïve at first and thought that business people would treat me fairly. Whoa! What a mistake. I did get my revenge, though, in a minor way. I started writing a column in the most popular trade magazine, and I was able to point out many underhanded practices going on which usually made life for the little guy more difficult. It did have some effect because it helped small dealers like me unite with others to be treated more fairly. Sounds like a union doesn't it? It wasn't. It became an association of retailers. I did learn a lot about looters and 2nd handers in both the manufacturing and distribution worlds.
I was an only child and very rebellious from the start which created a gap between us that did not close until I was an adult and we could have a drink and shoot pool together. I introduced him to golf when he retired and he became a fanatic playing almost every day until he became ill at 91 and died at 92. Some of our best times were spent on golf courses even after he was more interested in finding lost balls than in playing the game.
When he was very sick he asked me what I thought happened when you die which was the first time our conversations bordered on philosophical issues. I told him that if he was looking for a comfortable answer he was talking to the wrong person and that I thought the answer was nothingness. He said aren't you scared that is true and I said no and would only regret it if I felt I had wasted my life. He said I thought that is what you would say and we never spoke of it again. Due to his background, I think he would not have benefited a lot from reading AS but nevertheless had beliefs and traits that many have acquired from reading it.
I probably wasn't ready for it, although I would have benefitted some from it. I needed more practical guides to getting things done. I didn't find AS until I was 37.
Placed in perspective; Ayn Rand's Books and Philosophy were way ahead of her time, or, often repeated throughout history depending on how you want to look at it.
I don't know your father so my apologies first; But I doubt that had your dad read the book it would have made any difference. Since I read the book and realized this for myself I made a point of seeking out and asking people who read the book 30 years ago one question. "What did you think about it?". Their response in many cases was "I never finished it." or "It was OK." Which means they never gave it another thought. (Hard for some of us today to believe, but true). Think about it. The 1960's were a great time to start and be in business. The war was over, many people had VA benefits that they used to start businesses with. There was little government regulation to "equalize and protect us from ourselves". Many people that read the book back then found it interesting to boring, because they couldn't picture what was happening today. If they had paid more attention back then to what Ayn Rand had to say, the book would be far less prophetic.
I'm sorry you are having trouble with your business. As a business man myself I certainly have had my troubles, but can offer some sound advice: When confronted with a problem ask yourself; "What would Hank Rearden or Dagney Taggart do?" I know these were not real people (or were they simply alter Egos of Ayn Rand) but they were charters that found solutions to their problems and then became emotional later. Theres a powerful secret there.
Good Luck
Someone gave me a new copy several years ago (Obama was in office), and I almost read it cover to cover, I could not put it down, but I'm not a speed reader so it took me about a week and the weight of it hurt my wrist. What impressed me the most this time was that it was just like reading the newspaper or a diary of exactly what was happening today, only the names of the people and the action were changed to protect the guilty. Every chapter I ran to my wife and exclaimed that I just read in the book what I had just seen on the news. She read it after I finished.
I figure most of us read (for pleasure) what we enjoy, those stories that agree with our morals and how we think about life and everything else, the things that enforce our opinions. I don't think AS really make someone change that much, only perhaps make them more aware of how and what they believe in. I think this can be shown by asking someone who hated the book or hasn't read it what they think about it..