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A.A.P.A.

Posted by Herb7734 4 years, 3 months ago to Philosophy
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Ad Astra Per Aspera is a well known Latin phrase.The only controversey is the definition of the word "aspera." It is the root of the English word "asperation."So, the phrase might be interpreted like this: It is our aspiration to go to the stars. But, aspera as it was used, I am told, is also often interpreted as being a word that indicates difficulty or hardship which is the way It is iterperted when the phrase is used as a motto, or aphorism. So my favorite interpretation would be: "Through hardship, to the stars."There has been some discussion of late about the way certain young people feel about success. In some cases it is said that they (Mostly Millenials) expect to "have it all" once they graduate college, and that as one can easily see, leaves out the "aspera" part of the motto.Most of us know that life is not a day at the beach. We realize that in order to achieve, we must put forth effort, and in so doing it may well cause hardship and yes, sacrifice. The question then becomes, is success worth the effort required in order to achieve it. The first question an Objectivist might ask is, what would Rand say? Not being a philosopher, I will not answer except to say My use of the phrase is interpreting "aspera" as "hardship." Because I have never achieved much without lots of hard work. I would be interested to hear from Gulchers as to their thoughts on this subject..


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  • Posted by 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    (Voice of Orson Wells): "Who knows what eeevil Lurks in the hearts of men? (pause) The Shadow knows.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Lamont Cranston and the shadow.
    I know this because when a teen I used to go listen to great local band called Lamont Cranston and my dad told me about the radio drama when he ask where I was going.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I remember listening to radio plays when I was young in the late 50s to early 60s. I liked them, but can't remember their names. Mysteries or detective stories as I recall. They were gone by the mid 60s.
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  • Posted by 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, of course.I like it better when readers interpret her words. You can tell to what degree the meanings got through.
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  • Posted by 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, as in "asperations." Recently, the "S" symbol on Superman's chest was explained as the symbol for ":hope."I like the old Superman on the Radio (A pictureless communication device).His motto was, "Truth, Justice, and the American Way." Also made famous was "Up, up, and away." .
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  • Posted by 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How about a idealized picture of a 3 toed sloth reclining on a tree limb. In a Heraldic format with "In signo vinces." (In this sign we conquer) In fancy script..
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  • Posted by 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Says the Rosland Capital Spokesman: "I worked hard for my money and I don't intend to lose it now."
    Ditto, Ditto, Ditto.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The only burger gretta would eat is a veggie burger and I am not even sure about that!...she might look down her nose and exclaim: "How Dare You!"...at the thought of killing a plant to eat it.
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  • Posted by 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Depends on the burgers. The best ones are ome made. However, There are some in California that are above average In.and Out Burger, Fatburger, Fudrucker's all make good, fresh, tasty burgers that would be acceptable.
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  • Posted by Maritimus 4 years, 3 months ago
    I would say: compare the actions, behaviors and achievements of Dagny and James Taggart at their railroad and you will see clearly what Ayn Rand thought on the questions you ask.
    Regards.
    Maritimus
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  • Posted by 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To many employers, you are not a person, but a statistic. You are compared to other statistics and if you have more after your name you are chosen over others whose only statistics are on the job experience. Very stupid, but then...what do you expect from people that detached from humanity?
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That seems to make more sense than the other one. I never studied Latin, but from my knowledge of Italian and certain other languages, "Aspera" seems to refer to hope.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 4 years, 3 months ago
    I don't have a college degree. From about the time I was 16 onwards, I didn't see much point to getting one. I thought I might need a business school education, but the school went bankrupt after Christmas vacation, and I never did see much point in going to another one (Till later, when I went to take data processing and that time also the school went bankrupt).. I have taken some technical courses, such as Basic Machine Shop, and keypunch, and IST100 Computer, and those didn't get me the jobs I trained for. So I don't see much point in letting myself be further swindled. I have continued to work at jobs, until I was cut from a food plant in 2014 (they were cutting people, and I was one of those cut; they didn't tell me what it was specifically about me, and I did not attempt to discuss it with them. I suspect that they were cutting people because of Obamacare, and age may have been a factor.)
    From 13 Sept 1970 until 30 Oct 2014 I was never out of a job more than about a week and a half at a time, and that was the extreme case, and occurred only once (mainly because I moved to Richmond, and took some time off to have things put in storage, and get other business done). Sometimes it might be about 4 days, or 2 days; once in 1976 I walked off a job because of how I was treated, and was unemployed that time approximately 4 hours and 15 minutes. I don't like the notions that some people seem to have, that a "higher" education should automatically entitle them to a job, if their education is not relevant to the job they apply for.
    But I also don't like the way some people try to push higher education and ram it down everybody's throats, when it's not something they need, and not going to get them a job.---But I am still trying to get another job. I'm willing to work, and I know how to do things.
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  • Posted by Snakecane 4 years, 3 months ago
    The motto of the Royal Canadian Air Force is Per Ardua ad Astra which translated from Latin means "Through Adversity to the Stars." I hope this helps, friends.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Written work always has to be more descriptive. If a picture is worth a thousand words, then how many words is a movie worth?
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 4 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Excellent Laws; the two authors who called themselves: James S A Corey of the novels which the new Amazon series "The Expanse" is based on, shows the hardship & brutality of living and working in outer space. The novels are considerably more descriptive.
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  • Posted by Ben_C 4 years, 3 months ago
    What I find interesting is that many who win a large amount through perhaps a lottery end up losing the money with bad decisions and frivolous spending. Those who gain wealth through hard work tend to keep it.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 4 years, 3 months ago
    A novel use of the word: Aspera if indeed is translated as a hardship: Asperaburgers disease, as in our environ[mental] friend Gretta.-- considering it a hardship eating burgers...
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 4 years, 3 months ago
    Florida Tech's logo has "Ad Astra per Scientiam" on it. I like that better than Ad Astra Per Aspera, but hardship is encountered on the way into space. Some of you know "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Robert Heinlein.

    You ought to read The University of Maryland's Prof. Dave Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design at
    https://spacecraft.ssl.umd.edu/akins_...
    The last law is the best one:

    Space is a completely unforgiving environment. If you screw up the engineering, somebody dies (and there's no partial credit because most of the analysis was right...).
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