Who Can You Trust?

Posted by Herb7734 4 years, 2 months ago to Politics
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Do politicians lie to you? Most Gulchers will, I think, will agree that they do.A better question may be, ;Do politicians ever tell you the truth? I have discovered that the people are lied to primarily in order to keep the liar or liars in office. They may use excuses such as it's for the good of the country, or that it may not look good, but in the long run, it's a matter of something bad that will eventually be a good outcome. For example, the two world wars.In both cases the USA had decided to be neutral. Everyone knew that the neutrality depended largely on the combatants leaving America alone. If the USA was attacked, it would respond by by joining the side that didn't attack them. In both WW1 and WW2 the antagonist was comprised of Germany and others who faced off against the allies who were made up of Britain and France Japan, was the powerhouse who allied themselves with Germany.So, without writing an entire history book, here's what was told to the American people. In WW1 The land war had devolved into trench warfare which was a stalemate. It amounted to who could keep their armies supplied with munitions and supplemental materials . Germany was in a better position to do so as Britain needed to get it's supplies mostly from the USA. British ships carrying war materials from America became the target of German submarines. The Germans managed to sink most of British shipping so they started hiding war materials on American ships. Eventually, the Germans got wise to this and issued warnings to America that if American ships or British ships carrying Americans and hiding war cargo for England would become legitimate targets of war,So now comes the british ship The Lusitania. A huge four stack liner with four giant turbines that was the fastest thing afloat in those times. She was nicknamed "The Greyhound." The forward cabins were scooped out and in their place were water tight bins filled with guncotton. A highly inflammable chemical needed for use with arms such as cannons.

When the Lusitania sailed from the USA to England, the Germans knew about the illicit cargo.Four submarines were sent after the Greyhounf which was Lusitania's nickname and at the peril of their lives the Germans warned The Lusitania that if they didn't turn around and off-load their armaments they would be fired upon. The sleek beautiful ship paid no attention. Even though it contained over 100 Americans it was also filled with women and children. Over a thousand of them.

In 1941, the Japanese needed war materials, and like the England of 1915, got it's material from America. Once America cut them off they decided to punish America and get what they needed by threatening further punishment. They attacked the American Fleet at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii and decimated.it.In the case of the Luisitania, First Lord of the Amiralty,Winston Churchill and American soon-to-be-sec. of state Robert Lansing were complicit in maneuvering the slaughter. In the case of Pearl Harbor, our "Good pal" Winnie was once again "Saving" England at the expense of hundreds of lives. The press was told that the Lusitania was attacked without warning and that the women and children escaping in lifeboats were shot by Germans from the submarines as they sat helpless in their wooden boats.Which was a complete fabrication. In the case of Pearl harbor, Churchill and President Franklin D. Roosevelt Knew 10 months in advance of the planned attack.

In both cases, both attacks could have been avoided if the best interests o the people were truly put in first place.
Those were the biggest lies I could think of. You can multiply those by the hundreds, or perhaps thousands of lies told by the "Elites" to us poor ignorant common folks.So, if your first impression is that you're being lied to, you are probably right..


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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are totally right. If you don’t destroy an enemy, it just comes back and attacks again
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I mean really- tariffs aren’t paid for by the exporter of goods to the USA, but are paid by the importer upon receipt
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump even admitted recently that the swamp was deeper and wider than he originally thought
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  • Posted by 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. All his liberal tricks did absolutely nothing to eliminate the depression. But a war, with it's ability to create weapons from tanks to airplanes kickstarted the economy, which FDR attributed to all of his scrambled alphabet projects.
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  • Posted by 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    An enemy is never vanquished until it is destroyed completely. Otherwise it is given another chance to take you out or destroy you.One of the tenets of war. The USA is the only nation in history to not fully obey this, and it has paid the price in blood.
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  • Posted by 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm sorry, I am very old and I have forgotten the books and authors. Not to worry, however, all you need to do is google up a list of reference books on FDR as well as biographies and you'll find much of what has become common knowledge.FDR as a villain came to my attention when I read about how he would not allow a boat full of Jews trying to escape from German concentration camps to land in the USA and sent them back across the Atlantic to certain death.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that the immigrants from south america will team up with the millennials to install socialism one way or another in 2024. There is some degree of hatred for sanders, maybe because he is a rebel and will upset the cushy applecarts of the existing democrats. He will be prevented from winning the democratic nomination this time. I think bloomberg will team up with hillary and try to unseat trump by saying that voting for them will "undo the wrongs of 20216"... might work
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  • Posted by 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And hopefully, the Republicans will get it through their heads that Trump's way is a winner and carry on with the next candidate,.A long, long run on the "right" side would be nice for a change. Make the Republicans the most populous party instead of the Democrats, because the socialist split might just fracture the Democrats into two parties. Watcha think, Term2?
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The reason there is so much hatred against trump is that he is standing squarely against the Obama progressive plans. He is undoing the Obama legacy one executive order at a time. Hillary was supposed to win in 2016 and 2020 and continue the progressive agenda for a total of 16 heard and more through the Supreme Court picks.

    Not only did that not happen, the fear is a total of 8 years of anti progressive policies and conservative Supreme Court picks could put a long lasting dent in the progressive movement.

    Also, trump is upsetting the security of the bureaucrats Obama put in place, and they are trying anything to dump trump

    Hopefully trump gets re elected. That would give us 4 more years to keep at least most progressive policies in check
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  • Posted by 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I keep thinking that the "tipping point" remains just out of reach and we still may have time to right the ship. On the other hand, if we are there and it's too late, then to quote Dante, "Abandon all hope....."
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are distinct theoretical advantages iti living in a society with other people

    But those advantages are quickly turned into disadvantages in a collectivist society. An example is that it’s a lot of work and difficulty living alone in the woods or on a farm. But if the people around are thieves, it’s worse than being alone. I fear we are. Reaching a tipping point in this culture with the rise of socialism
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  • Posted by 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Eliminate certain "takers" by setting up criteria which they cannot overcome. There are those who actually deserve compassionate freebies, all the rest can travel that road to hell. Poverty should be unpleasant. It should be the incentive for doing better.This will require an entirely different attitude during a child's school years.
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  • Posted by 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They all have thousands of excuses that makes them look like saints shepherding the great unwashed into paradise. For the most part, they are demons making the road to hell look attractive. Sorry for the religious analogy, but that's the one thing religion is good at; heaven, hell, etc.
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  • Posted by Lucky 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In this post, our Herb has scored a bulls-eye.

    Request to Japan- I'm getting tired of haranguings from Hollywood celebrities, so how about taking on motion pics?
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My problem is that i dont really understand what the japs had to gain by blowing up the pacific fleet, except perhaps to keep the USA from interfering with the japanese desire to take over asia
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Most recent info I have is that the Japanese were upset because we quit selling them arms so they attacked us at Pearl Harbor to punish us. Reports are Churchill and Roosevelt were aware of this.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I just read the book, and the narrative is compelling. I have wondered how the USA had just no notice that the japs were planning such a large scale attack. Just doesnt make sense. I really dislike politicians for trying to manipulate us into doing what THEY want.
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